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Date:      Wed, 10 Jun 2020 12:39:14 +0700
From:      Eugene Grosbein <eugen@grosbein.net>
To:        freebsd-net@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: On Netgraph
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10.06.2020 6:48, John-Mark Gurney wrote:

> Tom Marcoen wrote this message on Tue, Jun 09, 2020 at 12:53 +0200:
>> That is what I had in mind. Though I was hoping I could put the encryption
>> in NetGraph too so that I would not see that interface on my host where I
>> do not need to see it.
> 
> You wouldn't see any interface if you're encrypting and authenticating
> a UDP tunnel with IPsec...  the Security Association (SA) is transparent
> and does not appear on the interface list of your host..

This is only partially true these days:
https://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=if_ipsec




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