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Date:      Fri, 13 Apr 2001 10:12:23 -0700
From:      "Freddie Cash" <fcash@bigfoot.com>
To:        Joseph Mallett <jmallett@newgold.net>, freebsd-chat@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Just an observation - MUA's seen in the lists
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In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSO.4.21.0104131301110.27707-100000@aphex.newgold.net>
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On 13 Apr 2001, at 13:01, Joseph Mallett wrote:
> I recommend FrameMaker for a lot of the stuff mentioned below... It's
> great for technical writing, etc. FrameMaker+SGML is nice... If you
> can afford it.

That's one the places WordPerfect excels.  Since WordPerfect is 
pretty much just an SGML DTD, it works very well with SGML.  Creating 
DTDs, compiling DTDs, and data-layouts.  Very simple tools for it are 
included, and the GUI is top-notch (of course, I haven't seen many 
SGML GUIs to compare it to).  Haven't played much with SGML, though.

However, no matter how much I may like WordPerfect, it it not the 
perfect tool for everyone.  :(

Cheers,
Freddie
fcash@bigfoot.com

> On Fri, 13 Apr 2001, Freddie Cash wrote:
> 
> > On 13 Apr 2001, at 16:59, Rahul Siddharthan wrote:
> > > > >  Or many of us are at work in a Windows only shop as the
> > > > >  desktops,
> > > > > and our webservers are nix. [Flame War --- As  M$ office is
> > > > > just about the best office product out there ].
> >  
> > > > [What's this white spirits sitting by my desk? /me throws it
> > > > away] Agree.  There is no other office suite worth the same.
> > 
> > > To all ye office users:
> > > I have some questions about MS Word.  I never use it myself, but I
> > > know people who do, and it seems to me that they have a hard time
> > > doing some very basic things which TeX/LaTeX have done since the
> > > 1980s.  Or maybe Word does do all this but users don't know it?
> > [snip]
> > WordPerfect 7+ does this.  Just finished a couple of papers for
> > school that used all but the label feature.  The nice thing is that
> > even when it does something automatically, you can go into Reveal
> > Codes to see what it did, and customise it to the way you work.
> > 
> > 
> > > These are the things I'm doubtful about.  There are plenty of 
> > things
> > > I'm not doubtful about: Word doesn't do them, at least not in any
> > > word document I've seen. (1) Math: Word's support for equations is
> > > rudimentary at best.
> > Word *really* lacks in this area.  WordPerfect is great for this. 
> > Did all my Stats notes in WP8, and have nice equations, while the
> > guy next to me tried using Word 97, and gave up after the first
> > month.
> > 
> > > (3) Paragraph-level formatting: TeX formats text a paragraph at a
> > >     time, to avoid ugly effects like "ladders" that could happen
> > >     when you do things a line at a time.  Adobe introduced that in
> > >     some of their DTP software much later.  Word doesn't do it.
> > You *can* do this in word, but there's no indication of where the
> > formatting starts and stops.  WordPerfect does this beautifully,
> > though.  And you can copy word/line/paragraph/page/document level
> > formatting between areas.
> > 
> > > (4) Spacing after full stops: in English language text,
> > > traditionally
> > >     one leaves a bit of extra space after a full stop.  TeX does
> > >     this, using some simple rules to recognise a full stop.  On
> > >     the rare occasions it gets this wrong, you can overrule it.
> > Word can be set up to do this via auto-correct.  However, it is
> > *very* hard to change a document from 1-space to 2-spaces after a
> > full-stop without reading through the document correcting things
> > like "Dr.  So-and-so".
> > 
> > > End result: TeX/LaTeX documents are consistently beautiful to look
> > > at: you have to try rather hard to screw them up.  MS Word
> > > documents are almost always hideous.  You can argue that Word is
> > > not meant to be publication-quality stuff, but unfortunately
> > > that's what many people
> > Word isn't meant for anything more difficult than writing the 
> > occasional letter.  Unless you want to spend gregarious amounts of
> > money on courses to learn all the intricacies of how to make Word
> > annoy you less.  :)
> > 
> > > do use it for.  Besides, I prefer even an ordinary letter to be
> > > nicely typeset, and LaTeX lets me do that without compromising on
> > > ease of use.  (For those who must have their point&click, there's
> > > LyX.) 
> > 
> > Cheers,
> > Freddie
> > fcash@bigfoot.com
> > 
> > 
> > Reject complexity, embrace simplicity, and leave your
> > ego at the door. 
> >     - Colonel Kernel @ http://dualboot.net
> > 
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