From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 19 04:37:22 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39BDD16A41B for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 04:37:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jrytoung@gmail.com) Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com (wx-out-0506.google.com [66.249.82.231]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD3BC13C459 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 04:37:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jrytoung@gmail.com) Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i29so1658931wxd.7 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 20:37:21 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=5BkxP68gf2doZWSjdN8gQok7HWPS1zWnZQI/k7xQrec=; b=iJ4Jz42yJLtnfPaHZxYZZ5/pjuWyCUX7b5nIJIp4+nIar4ayKIDfQZ8+/kMXIrXjqe/8xULV3aQ6SP5vJuySjMAKVqhxNrgPZYAFmqGcsvseJ8VlES6ibRkmSo7JSbywDU/z6FC8u3OecOiyEwD6anOV6INuetZ+YVuHLvyOwmg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=EEkgSMnjFewFalb1LN0rtcW6TKzCSC7l9OWbIzT7HY2ylHxz+CeFGHAHlg7jkTSDMrKJAdKXvOmC9Z2HjWfnjidzc1aaAxb9l9ttXrQ6Lttx9Lf6/DAhViFIPLus7Sx+ghY6iLg8G7JhhAmugD79QS/j3zMbqfrOwb+p6dA9iSk= Received: by 10.142.104.9 with SMTP id b9mr4992061wfc.48.1203395840507; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 20:37:20 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.142.51.19 with HTTP; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 20:37:20 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <86068e730802182037w22073ee9of3f0faae3238c37b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 20:37:20 -0800 From: "Jerry Toung" To: "Mike Meyer" In-Reply-To: <20080218231359.7601cd70@bhuda.mired.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <86068e730802181718s1ad50d3axeae0dde119ddcf92@mail.gmail.com> <47BA3334.4040707@andric.com> <86068e730802181954t52e4e05ay65e04c5f6de9b78a@mail.gmail.com> <20080218231359.7601cd70@bhuda.mired.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: encrypted executables X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 04:37:22 -0000 On Feb 18, 2008 8:13 PM, Mike Meyer < mwm-keyword-freebsdhackers2.e313df@mired.org> wrote: > > Basically the DRM problem (only executing your property under > conditions you specify, not under those the end user might want). A > *lot* of money has been spent trying to do this, but nobody has done > it yet. Some very smart people have concluded it can't be done. > > That said, you did say "harder", not "impossible". Making it harder is > certainly possible, depending on the conditions. What are they > conditions you want this to work under? > > FWIW, the only thing that in this area is to not let them run the > critical parts of your app on their hardware. Put those on your > service, exported via the network, and then give the end user a UI > that talks to that. > thank you all for the feedback. Yep, DRM issues, it doesn't hurt to try. Jerry > > -- > Mike Meyer > http://www.mired.org/consulting.html > Independent Network/Unix/Perforce consultant, email for more information. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-hackers-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >