From owner-freebsd-security Tue Aug 27 16:54:59 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-security@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7CD637B401 for ; Tue, 27 Aug 2002 16:54:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from CPE0004761ac738-CM00109515bc65.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com (CPE0004761ac738-CM00109515bc65.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [24.103.39.131]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id F22CB43E4A for ; Tue, 27 Aug 2002 16:54:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from shadow@cpe0004761ac738-cm00109515bc65.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) Received: (qmail 23740 invoked by uid 1001); 27 Aug 2002 23:54:58 -0000 Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 19:54:58 -0400 From: Miroslav Pendev To: security@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Administrivia: Discussion - Making this list subscriber-only Message-ID: <20020827235458.GA23546@cybershade.us> References: <200208271801.30895.freebsd-security@ichi.net> <200208272227.g7RMRil5025119@grimreaper.grondar.org> <200208271849.12854.freebsd-security@ichi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200208271849.12854.freebsd-security@ichi.net> X-Divine-Shadow-Zone: Beware of Lexxx! X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.6 STABLE X-System-Uptime: 6:49PM up 7 days, 21:51, 7 users, load averages: 0.08, 0.02, 0.01 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi Guys, As I can see it, there are two problems: 1.Subscribers only security list. As a metter of fact this is the only list (lists) I am subcribed to, that you can post a message without being subscribed, first. If You are good enough to need FreeBSD security, you must know at least how to check your home (corporate) email(s) no matter what kind of corporate policy and internet access you have. You can use ssh or Webmail or whatever to check your subscribed email acount. So, I don't think that this (1.) can be a problem at all. At least it is NOT a problem to FreeBSD's core team or mailadmins or whoever is responsible for this decision. Subscribers only security list may not stop 100% of the spam, but definately will stop most of the '...hot teens...credits...etc' crap. 2.OS security specific list only! As I understand it this list will not be the right place to ask why your Win-Dos box can not go trough your firewall, right! I am ok with that, too! If this can make the signal bigger and better, and will make the security engineers to do a better job - ok, let's do it! But, someone has to put in bold somewhere for what this list is and for what isn't, so the new folks knows what to aks here and what to ask in 'questions'! Preferably in the web site around sunscription info... Just my thoughts! --Miro To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-security" in the body of the message