From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Wed Sep 19 15:06:39 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A1BD109E445 for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2018 15:06:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-rwg@pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net) Received: from pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net (br1.CN84in.dnsmgr.net [69.59.192.140]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0CC5784931 for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2018 15:06:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-rwg@pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net) Received: from pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id w8JF6XVG024281; Wed, 19 Sep 2018 08:06:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd-rwg@pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net) Received: (from freebsd-rwg@localhost) by pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id w8JF6W10024280; Wed, 19 Sep 2018 08:06:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd-rwg) From: "Rodney W. Grimes" Message-Id: <201809191506.w8JF6W10024280@pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net> Subject: Re: FreeBSD EFI projects In-Reply-To: <1537368121.5568.1@hraggstad.unrelenting.technology> To: Greg V Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2018 08:06:32 -0700 (PDT) CC: Rebecca Cran , Konstantin Belousov , Warner Losh , FreeBSD Current X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL121h (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2018 15:06:39 -0000 > On Wed, Sep 19, 2018 at 5:34 PM, Rodney W. Grimes > wrote: > >> On 9/18/18 4:11 AM, Greg V wrote: > >> > >> > > >> > I can confirm that the kernel already worked fine when booted from > >> > 32-bit EFI. > >> > > >> > I booted an old Mac into HardenedBSD using a 32-bit-EFI build of > >> GRUB2 :) > >> > >> > >> Was that a 64-bit version of FreeBSD? My understanding is the 32-bit > >> FreeBSD boots fine, but 64-bit needs work. > > > > You would be hard pressed to find a system with a 64 bit CPU that > > could run 64 bit FreeBSD that had a 32 bit EFI implementation. > > Mac mini 2006 with a Core2Duo instead of the stock CoreDuo (and the > 2007 model's firmware flashed, but I don't think that impacts FreeBSD). Yes, that is one of the catagories of rare, a EFI-32 bit system that was originally shipped with a 32 bit only CPU, that later got upgraded in the field with a 64 bit CPU, that still runs a EFI-32 bios. Are you sure the 2007 firmware is EFI32? I would of thought since they upgraded the base system to a 64 bit CPU they would of shipped it with a EFI-64 bios. > > And probably just the 2007 model as well :) > > Also, IIRC there were some Intel Atom tablets with 32-bit EFI. Atom N2xx and Z5xx series Atom models cannot run x86-64 -- Rod Grimes rgrimes@freebsd.org