From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 15 17:43:50 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46BAF16A4CE; Fri, 15 Oct 2004 17:43:50 +0000 (GMT) Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de (moutng.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.188]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8ED7043D54; Fri, 15 Oct 2004 17:43:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from max@love2party.net) Received: from [212.227.126.208] (helo=mrelayng.kundenserver.de) by moutng.kundenserver.de with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 1CIW7I-0007a1-00; Fri, 15 Oct 2004 19:43:48 +0200 Received: from [84.128.143.89] (helo=donor.laier.local) by mrelayng.kundenserver.de with asmtp (TLSv1:RC4-MD5:128) (Exim 3.35 #1) id 1CIW7G-0004Hx-00; Fri, 15 Oct 2004 19:43:48 +0200 From: Max Laier To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2004 19:42:45 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.7 References: <20041014000822.GA30887@nagual.pp.ru> <20041014182715.GB665@empiric.icir.org> <20041014203132.GA54873@nagual.pp.ru> In-Reply-To: <20041014203132.GA54873@nagual.pp.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart1751667.7lJUbONrLB"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200410151943.01797.max@love2party.net> X-Provags-ID: kundenserver.de abuse@kundenserver.de auth:61c499deaeeba3ba5be80f48ecc83056 cc: Bruce M Simpson cc: Robert Huff cc: Andrey Chernov cc: Ian FREISLICH cc: Robert Watson cc: Kris Kennaway Subject: Re: network slowness/freez-up since update 10/11 X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2004 17:43:50 -0000 --nextPart1751667.7lJUbONrLB Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Thursday 14 October 2004 22:31, Andrey Chernov wrote: > On Thu, Oct 14, 2004 at 11:27:15AM -0700, Bruce M Simpson wrote: > > > similar others, nothing brings special attention to be aware of. I'll > > > expect special 'WARNING: de owners' message to current in such > > > situations, i.e. if something is not fixed to work together. > > > > I think your expectations of support are unrealistic here. > > FreeBSD is a largely unfunded volunteer open source project. > > de(4) has no official maintainer(s). Patches are welcome. > > > > On the other hand, if you want a commercial level of support, consider > > paying for it. > > All this suggestions really surprise me. Patches? Pay? Another one was to > buy different card, from somebody other... > > I know myself well how to _handle_ it now, please don't try to suggest. My > problem was that REASON of hang was UNCLEAR for me for two months. > > People, I not expecting that you'll fix this if_de and not even demand it > in any form! If you actually read what I write I expect only 'WARNING' > mail to current@ list in case some dangerous commits made. What is > unrealistic in this expecation? Such as: http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/htdig/freebsd-current/2004-March/024239.ht= ml http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/htdig/freebsd-current/2004-July/031839.html =2E.. Anyway, let's end this and get on to fixing it - shall we? Could reporters please try to backout the ALTQ patches: http://people.freebsd.org/~mlaier/if_de.c.backout.diff or check if reducing the driver managed queue length allready helps: http://people.freebsd.org/~mlaier/if_de.c.drvlen.diff Please tell me if it helps. TIA. =2D-=20 /"\ Best regards, | mlaier@freebsd.org \ / Max Laier | ICQ #67774661 X http://pf4freebsd.love2party.net/ | mlaier@EFnet / \ ASCII Ribbon Campaign | Against HTML Mail and News --nextPart1751667.7lJUbONrLB Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBBcAwlXyyEoT62BG0RAoVZAJ91Zbu2IZzHfcSByS4d+AqIoGCKuwCfelGs Zf5W5yAfnAhJWUKOPMS1kiI= =1lOR -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart1751667.7lJUbONrLB--