From owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 21 13:32:50 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: multimedia@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E33E416A53A for ; Thu, 21 Dec 2006 13:32:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alexander@leidinger.net) Received: from redbull.bpaserver.net (redbullneu.bpaserver.net [213.198.78.217]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0997013C4F9 for ; Thu, 21 Dec 2006 13:32:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alexander@leidinger.net) Received: from outgoing.leidinger.net (p54A5D6C7.dip.t-dialin.net [84.165.214.199]) by redbull.bpaserver.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F4F52E078; Thu, 21 Dec 2006 07:47:30 +0100 (CET) Received: from webmail.leidinger.net (webmail.Leidinger.net [192.168.1.102]) by outgoing.leidinger.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 089105B480D; Thu, 21 Dec 2006 07:46:43 +0100 (CET) Received: (from www@localhost) by webmail.leidinger.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id kBL6kgT7085524; Thu, 21 Dec 2006 07:46:42 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from Alexander@Leidinger.net) Received: from pslux.cec.eu.int (pslux.cec.eu.int [158.169.9.14]) by webmail.leidinger.net (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Thu, 21 Dec 2006 07:46:42 +0100 Message-ID: <20061221074642.ezsk9if6ucws8w0k@webmail.leidinger.net> X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 07:46:42 +0100 From: Alexander Leidinger To: usleepless@gmail.com References: <6300771b0612181401i72e7cc58ta08e12de8d68d4d0@mail.gmail.com> <6300771b0612181534h3158342aw554869660fc707ea@mail.gmail.com> <20061218234041.GU4364@wantadilla.lemis.com> <20061219224005.GC4364@wantadilla.lemis.com> <6300771b0612191524y64af793cy10f9bff4193536c7@mail.gmail.com> <6300771b0612191642k3cda3985o4b860b839847f9d8@mail.gmail.com> <20061220083600.eu2c9lwcg00ssg8s@webmail.leidinger.net> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.3) / FreeBSD-7.0 X-BPAnet-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-BPAnet-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-BPAnet-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-13.664, required 6, BAYES_00 -15.00, DK_POLICY_SIGNSOME 0.00, FORGED_RCVD_HELO 0.14, J_CHICKENPOX_12 0.60, J_CHICKENPOX_54 0.60) X-BPAnet-MailScanner-From: alexander@leidinger.net X-Spam-Status: No Cc: Stephen Hocking , multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: MythTV (was: Possible FreeBSD port?) X-BeenThere: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Multimedia discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 13:32:51 -0000 Quoting usleepless@gmail.com (from Wed, 20 Dec 2006 22:48:32 +0100): > Dear Alexander, List, > > On 12/20/06, Alexander Leidinger wrote: >> Quoting Stephen Hocking (from Wed, 20 Dec >> 2006 11:42:08 +1100): >> >>> I'm all digital, and as far as I'm aware, there's no settled kernel API >> for >>> DVB-T cards (or video really, in general) for FBSD. >> >> Here's a proposal: >> http://people.freebsd.org/~jmg/videobsd.html > > while i understand the urge to define a multimedia-framework for BSD, > i think it's too little too late. > > i believe the proper way to propell BSD into multimedia is to adopt > V4L(2). i made the multimedia/pvrxxx driver V4L2 compatible, and made > mythtv compile and run. now it just works. > > i don't particular like V4L(2), but me thinks it's the only way. Free stuff which is better than less good stuff is always the enemy of =20 the less good stuff. Let's call it video4unix and see what happens. =20 Lobby a little bit in the opensolaris camp, and you may even gain some =20 kind of commercial interest behind it. I don't say we should not make =20 existing drivers v4lX compliant, I just say we should not block =20 inventions. If someone is interested in doing it, let him do it. If it =20 is more easy to use and/or offers more requested features, I'm sure it =20 will be used. Bye, Alexander. --=20 I think she must have been very strictly brought up, she's so desperately anxious to do the wrong thing correctly. =09=09-- Saki, "Reginald on Worries" http://www.Leidinger.net Alexander @ Leidinger.net: PGP ID =3D B0063FE7 http://www.FreeBSD.org netchild @ FreeBSD.org : PGP ID =3D 72077137