From owner-freebsd-fs@freebsd.org Fri Jun 24 07:35:24 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-fs@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80BFEB80F0C for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2016 07:35:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jkh@ixsystems.com) Received: from barracuda.ixsystems.com (barracuda.ixsystems.com [12.229.62.30]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.ixsystems.com", Issuer "Go Daddy Secure Certificate Authority - G2" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 55571280C for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2016 07:35:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jkh@ixsystems.com) X-ASG-Debug-ID: 1466753723-08ca041121252c0001-3nHGF7 Received: from zimbra.ixsystems.com ([10.246.0.20]) by barracuda.ixsystems.com with ESMTP id R38iwKZ2iihlhQDA (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 24 Jun 2016 00:35:23 -0700 (PDT) X-Barracuda-Envelope-From: jkh@ixsystems.com X-Barracuda-RBL-Trusted-Forwarder: 10.246.0.20 X-ASG-Whitelist: Client Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zimbra.ixsystems.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C0FDDE0F26; Fri, 24 Jun 2016 00:35:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zimbra.ixsystems.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zimbra.ixsystems.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10032) with ESMTP id ISbnJgLYUd9H; Fri, 24 Jun 2016 00:35:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zimbra.ixsystems.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D2E1DE4CB1; Fri, 24 Jun 2016 00:35:22 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ixsystems.com Received: from zimbra.ixsystems.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zimbra.ixsystems.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id fXhc0qangd-3; Fri, 24 Jun 2016 00:35:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [172.20.0.18] (vpn.ixsystems.com [10.249.0.2]) by zimbra.ixsystems.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D4321DE4BA6; Fri, 24 Jun 2016 00:35:21 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 9.3 \(3124\)) Subject: Re: pNFS server Plan B From: Jordan Hubbard X-ASG-Orig-Subj: Re: pNFS server Plan B In-Reply-To: <16d38847-f515-f532-1300-d2843005999e@digiware.nl> Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2016 00:35:21 -0700 Cc: Rick Macklem , freebsd-fs , Alexander Motin Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <0CB465F9-B819-4DA7-969C-690A02BEB66E@ixsystems.com> References: <1524639039.147096032.1465856925174.JavaMail.zimbra@uoguelph.ca> <16d38847-f515-f532-1300-d2843005999e@digiware.nl> To: Willem Jan Withagen X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3124) X-Barracuda-Connect: UNKNOWN[10.246.0.20] X-Barracuda-Start-Time: 1466753723 X-Barracuda-Encrypted: ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 X-Barracuda-URL: https://10.246.0.26:443/cgi-mod/mark.cgi X-Virus-Scanned: by bsmtpd at ixsystems.com X-Barracuda-BRTS-Status: 1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Filesystems List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2016 07:35:24 -0000 > On Jun 22, 2016, at 1:56 AM, Willem Jan Withagen = wrote: >=20 > In the spare time I have left, I'm trying to get a lot of small fixes > into the ceph tree to get it actually compiling, testing, and running = on > FreeBSD. But Ceph is a lot of code, and since a lot of people are > working on it, the number of code changes are big. Hi Willem, Yes, I read your paper on the porting effort! I also took a look at porting ceph myself, about 2 years ago, and = rapidly concluded that it wasn=E2=80=99t a small / trivial effort by any = means and would require a strong justification in terms of ceph=E2=80=99s = feature set over glusterfs / moose / OpenAFS / RiakCS / etc. Since = that time, there=E2=80=99s been customer interest but nothing truly = =E2=80=9Cstrong=E2=80=9D per-se. My attraction to ceph remains centered = around at least these 4 things: 1. Distributed Object store with S3-compatible ReST API 2. Interoperates with Openstack via Swift compatibility 3. Block storage (RADOS) - possibly useful for iSCSI and other block = storage requirements 4. Filesystem interface Is there anything we can do to help? Do the CEPH folks seem receptive = to actually having a =E2=80=9CTier 1=E2=80=9D FreeBSD port? I know that = stas@ did an early almost-port awhile back, but it never reached = fruition and my feeling was that they (ceph) might be a little gun-shy = about seeing another port that might wind up in the same place, crufting = up their code base to no purpose. Do you have any initial impressions = about that? I=E2=80=99ve never talked to any of the 3 principle guys = working on the project and this is pure guesswork on my part. - Jordan