From owner-freebsd-net@freebsd.org Thu Oct 4 12:35:20 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-net@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15A6D10A850A; Thu, 4 Oct 2018 12:35:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from des@des.no) Received: from smtp.des.no (smtp.des.no [194.63.250.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A83199407F; Thu, 4 Oct 2018 12:35:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from des@des.no) Received: from next.des.no (smtp.des.no [194.63.250.102]) by smtp.des.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E8EE8846; Thu, 4 Oct 2018 12:35:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: by next.des.no (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 06A59B660; Thu, 4 Oct 2018 14:35:19 +0200 (CEST) From: =?utf-8?Q?Dag-Erling_Sm=C3=B8rgrav?= To: Alexey Dokuchaev Cc: Brooks Davis , freebsd-arch@freebsd.org, freebsd-net@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-fcp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FCP-0101: Deprecating most 10/100 Ethernet drivers In-Reply-To: <20181004084411.GA50348@FreeBSD.org> (Alexey Dokuchaev's message of "Thu, 4 Oct 2018 08:44:11 +0000") References: <20181003210516.GA71565@spindle.one-eyed-alien.net> <20181004084411.GA50348@FreeBSD.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.1 (berkeley-unix) Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2018 14:35:18 +0200 Message-ID: <86va6h7uux.fsf@next.des.no> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: freebsd-net@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: Networking and TCP/IP with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2018 12:35:20 -0000 Alexey Dokuchaev writes: > Looking at the commits they require near zero maintenance. Please do not confuse =E2=80=9Cnobody is maintaining them=E2=80=9D with =E2= =80=9Cthey don't need maintenance=E2=80=9D, because they do. And please assume good faith. Broo= ks asked for people to speak up if they care about some of the drivers he proposed to remove; all you had to do was say =E2=80=9CI still use this dri= ver=E2=80=9D. There was no need to attack him, much less to swear. DES --=20 Dag-Erling Sm=C3=B8rgrav - des@des.no