From owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Fri Aug 18 13:02:30 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CBCCDE0201 for ; Fri, 18 Aug 2017 13:02:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from outbackdingo@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wr0-x22c.google.com (mail-wr0-x22c.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c0c::22c]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C24C02A62 for ; Fri, 18 Aug 2017 13:02:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from outbackdingo@gmail.com) Received: by mail-wr0-x22c.google.com with SMTP id 49so61014409wrw.2 for ; Fri, 18 Aug 2017 06:02:29 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=1PQKeI8VNv2A5BY3PqVLQrCylG/AxzTBymL+6RuH21c=; b=mWLpuFd0qWpPlJ1rFGKFLXnUtEHXbt3DqXe3bVAxuFkTrio4BBRxwRTfqukQUBONV2 l87z8wu+G2R2G+qORnbroj6mbN1gThRCojaIy6Q4QN/+Y9Gx5/Q4Wkh8U2/SZ9Hk+zvw Y/jSnJUfF/g/zqk3Vl0PBaD6YglhBo4AEJdR+4n6NkgDVovanHOW2z2DHOkbr3v8gPYl MHbqQhYMtp/6nQpTaVAWx2Rb9Tcx5xN42yLePpbADUIeWupK7f9p7LfLvLhUR7vahomY VaEyNY5SlzmFlDIPphbByDS7cXbD95XqnTdHdq9LpX5QnpqCcSBNxM4/XgQRO5dHhCEt PsNg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=1PQKeI8VNv2A5BY3PqVLQrCylG/AxzTBymL+6RuH21c=; b=k/zU7iU4qjr9fJmuH8iC5AoCPLX7Lt/BtCuCLUIellY4g0Bbt3seByAHcKPufZu/Ci vEhOMFmw3MbWXZoq9CgL85IqDfSeRX4kXQ6C22HrHfTJ4LEJ0xIjMbQL/ZTU0WyXk3Z3 XHkuGfXgs1v0B+nPRPPQ5ouaY/PJXGa6wVMR89R09hB1YKkFhrQtuOEgoyouVWrnRp0S UQi5U0KXB6LTWsm5Elry4db0UzqgAZIo3VPX51oWVJCU1NBnWM9hJChqkW/Iee68kNRo BN2Bnh+lvZEMLxZt6Ymd/t9rxAaHEBERcosjA17ocOZjrrCn2pDpJrSXOFq0hrYi8HG3 pmyw== X-Gm-Message-State: AHYfb5gfvV/oIg5DLQCkwEGRPEW0TvU46xWqCTHTwJvUJ5U9UH3Jcl9T m+r4nuOC9Ha9NB0BJYtyyJ+gTkb/sSG8 X-Received: by 10.223.155.9 with SMTP id b9mr5960092wrc.127.1503061348120; Fri, 18 Aug 2017 06:02:28 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.164.83 with HTTP; Fri, 18 Aug 2017 06:01:47 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20170818120351.GA37121@shell-jail> References: <750ee484-a43e-c96f-bca2-d36825943dde@ingresso.co.uk> <61BB2282-5D66-410E-A4E8-CE7D78D8898B@punkt.de> <20170818120351.GA37121@shell-jail> From: Outback Dingo Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2017 09:01:47 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: recommendations for file server based zfs appliance To: Stefan Hagen Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2017 13:02:30 -0000 On Fri, Aug 18, 2017 at 8:03 AM, Stefan Hagen wrote: > * Patrick M. Hausen wrote: >>> >>> Am 18.08.2017 um 11:19 schrieb Pete French : >>> The HP micro servers work very well, and you can pick them up remakably >>> cheaply [...] >>> Not sure about ECC memory support there though. >> >> >> They do support ECC, no problem. >> >> They are available with different CPU configurations from >> as Pete said remarkably cheap Celeron D based systems >> up to Xeon CPUs. > > > I've just sold my Microserver Gen8 (Xeon) just recently. > It's a beautiful little machine, but I didn't make me happy in the long r= un. > > Reasons: > - Limited to 8GB Ram in total > - Only 4 HDDs > - JBOD support is not great > - Harddrives are never going to sleep (not supported) > > Installing FreeBSD was harder than expected. The machine refused to boot > FreeBSD > from the internal non-raid SATA ports. I didn't try FreeNAS though. > > Also, in case you go with a Microserver - I think all non-xeon models do = not > support AES-NI, which will cut the throughput in case you plan to encrypt > your > drives. > > iX-Systems would have been my choice to replace this machine until I foun= d > out > that I can build something myself that suits my needs even better. > > Note, I was looking at the 8 bay model and I would have to add around $28= 0 > for > shipping and tax to Germany. > > I'm now going for this custom build: > - Fractal Design Define R5 > Reason: Silent, enough space for 12 drives > - SuperMicro MBD-A1SAI-2550F-O > Reason: IPMI, ECC, AES-NI, 64GB Ram, Intel NIC, low power consumption > - 4x 8GB Kingson ECC SODIMM > Reason: 16GB modules are not yet available > - Seasonic X-Series Fanless X-400FL 400W passiv > Reason: Fanless -> silent > > The complete order was around 1000=E2=82=AC > > That being said, I'm planning to put an older 3ware controller in JBOD mo= de > in > it and I also have SSDs and drives already. The board has only 6 SATA por= ts. > But that would be enough for you. > > This might be a little big for you. But maybe it gives you ideas. > > Best Regards, > Stefan > Sorry but need to as do yo want some under powered atom system? or a core i3i7 cpu and 16 Gbs memoery, with 8 GB ports and 6 SATA ports in a small custom build. because thats exactly what we sell and we sell it for less the an XL .... by a few hundred bucs, less the drives. it will easly take 6 3.5 drives and 2 2.5..... IF you really want the specs on a sweet low end system with higher specs then the miniXL and cheaper also then say a super micro or HP box let me know. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"