From owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Sat Jan 26 13:49:52 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37D1914C3E96 for ; Sat, 26 Jan 2019 13:49:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bapt@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C847683E45 for ; Sat, 26 Jan 2019 13:49:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bapt@FreeBSD.org) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 8C1F414C3E95; Sat, 26 Jan 2019 13:49:51 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: arch@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A91B14C3E94 for ; Sat, 26 Jan 2019 13:49:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bapt@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.freebsd.org (smtp.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::24b:4]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.freebsd.org", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 204B583E42; Sat, 26 Jan 2019 13:49:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bapt@FreeBSD.org) Received: from ivaldir.etoilebsd.net (etoilebsd.net [178.32.217.76]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) (Authenticated sender: bapt) by smtp.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id F1D5D11A68; Sat, 26 Jan 2019 13:49:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bapt@FreeBSD.org) Received: from [192.168.0.17] (207.141.6.93.rev.sfr.net [93.6.141.207]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ivaldir.etoilebsd.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 1DD6AB51F5; Sat, 26 Jan 2019 14:49:48 +0100 (CET) Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2019 14:49:47 +0100 User-Agent: K-9 Mail for Android In-Reply-To: <612ABF23-B940-4692-B977-2DF7CD34BC5C@gid.co.uk> References: <20190125165751.kpcjjncmf7j7maxd@ivaldir.net> <69E462A0-B9E9-4D26-898F-A96036227E65@FreeBSD.org> <201901251727.x0PHRniq094803@donotpassgo.dyslexicfish.net> <862c514f-7c19-ce6c-4438-1e765524cee2@quip.cz> <612ABF23-B940-4692-B977-2DF7CD34BC5C@gid.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: Importing mksh in base To: Bob Bishop ,Miroslav Lachman <000.fbsd@quip.cz> CC: Jamie Landeg-Jones , grembo@freebsd.org, dteske@freebsd.org, arch@freebsd.org From: Baptiste Daroussin Message-ID: <9A54D267-DE69-4C88-857D-9C523C853EDA@FreeBSD.org> X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 204B583E42 X-Spamd-Bar: ------ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-6.97 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.97)[-0.972,0] X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2019 13:49:52 -0000 Le 26 janvier 2019 12:43:37 GMT+01:00, Bob Bishop a =C3= =A9crit : >Hi, > >> On 25 Jan 2019, at 23:49, Miroslav Lachman <000=2Efbsd@quip=2Ecz> wrote= : >>=20 >> Jamie Landeg-Jones wrote on 2019/01/25 18:27: >>> Heavy tcsh user here - strictly for interactive use (I use bourne >shell for >>> shell scripting) >>> Still, as long as it continues in base (and I'd be first to >volunteer >>> to maintain that if needed - it already contains a few patches of >mine), >>=20 >> Yes please, keep tcsh in base=2E >> After almost 20 years on FreeBSD with tcsh I don't understand how >somebody can user bash as root shell=2E > >+1=20 > >And let=E2=80=99s not forget that bash brought us CVE-2014-6271 (ShellSho= ck)=2E >There may be other vulnerabilities lurking among the fancy gadgets=2E > No one is proposing to bring in bash, mksh is clearly not as fancy as bash Bapt