From owner-freebsd-virtualization@freebsd.org Thu Jul 13 09:13:18 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-virtualization@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD1E9D9CB65 for ; Thu, 13 Jul 2017 09:13:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@omnilan.de) Received: from mx0.gentlemail.de (mx0.gentlemail.de [IPv6:2a00:e10:2800::a130]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5D235704BB for ; Thu, 13 Jul 2017 09:13:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@omnilan.de) Received: from mh0.gentlemail.de (mh0.gentlemail.de [78.138.80.135]) by mx0.gentlemail.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id v6D9DDIJ072078; Thu, 13 Jul 2017 11:13:13 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@omnilan.de) Received: from titan.inop.mo1.omnilan.net (s1.omnilan.de [217.91.127.234]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mh0.gentlemail.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 98CD6BC2; Thu, 13 Jul 2017 11:13:13 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <596739A9.80009@omnilan.de> Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2017 11:13:13 +0200 From: Harry Schmalzbauer Organization: OmniLAN User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; de-DE; rv:1.9.2.8) Gecko/20100906 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Frank Leonhardt CC: freebsd-virtualization@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Any support creating a Windows Server 2012 unattended install References: <59672CC7.2090309@omnilan.de> <596730E5.5000804@omnilan.de> <18aa509d-04f4-3f92-3310-6c881f9e158a@fjl.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <18aa509d-04f4-3f92-3310-6c881f9e158a@fjl.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: ACL 129 matched, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (mx0.gentlemail.de [78.138.80.130]); Thu, 13 Jul 2017 11:13:13 +0200 (CEST) X-Milter: Spamilter (Reciever: mx0.gentlemail.de; Sender-ip: 78.138.80.135; Sender-helo: mh0.gentlemail.de; ) X-BeenThere: freebsd-virtualization@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Discussion of various virtualization techniques FreeBSD supports." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2017 09:13:18 -0000 Bezüglich Frank Leonhardt's Nachricht vom 13.07.2017 10:40 (localtime): > On 13/07/2017 09:35, Harry Schmalzbauer wrote: >> Bezüglich Paul Webster's Nachricht vom 13.07.2017 10:22 (localtime): >>> Ah ha we can now see installs, perfect thank you harry! just what I >>> needed I thought we still had no way of seeing the install process >> You can run anything that provides a UEFIx64 loader with VNC-graphics, >> due to the ongoing effort of many bhyve developers. >> Thank goes to them! > I'll second that! I wish I'd known this 18 months ago (but then it > wasn't available then). > > Does you know if it works with OS/2 and Windows XP/98? You can use the CSM-UEFI Firmware. This emulates some/all rudementary (PC-)BIOS functions to boot legacy MBR systems. But you won't have VGA support. So I'd estimate you have no chance to install win98 and a good chance to run XP installer in EMS/unattended mode (only, no graphical installer/login!). Unfortunately I never had the pleasure to play with OS/2. If it depends on VGA or doesn't provide any form of serial console, you'll be out of luck currently. bhyve(8) aimed to be a modern design, tolerating limited versatile usage, as far as I can tell. People are working on VGA-passthrough support, so one day you could probably be able to install _one_ legacy OS, if UEFI-CSM doesn't need additional modification (which I could imagine might be needed due to ACPI dependency of the guest OS? I can't tell since I have a only very brief overview of the BIOS boot process, maybe the epxerts here can answer this). But it will always follow different goals than virtualbox and/or QEMU do. The latter are designed to provide versitale guest support! -harry