From owner-freebsd-chat Sat Jun 27 21:16:21 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA20635 for freebsd-chat-outgoing; Sat, 27 Jun 1998 21:16:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.HiWAAY.net (fly.HiWAAY.net [208.147.154.56]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA20572 for ; Sat, 27 Jun 1998 21:16:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dkelly@n4hhe.ampr.org) Received: from nospam.hiwaay.net (tnt3-234.HiWAAY.net [208.147.146.234]) by mail.HiWAAY.net (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id XAA01442 for ; Sat, 27 Jun 1998 23:16:17 -0500 (CDT) Received: from n4hhe.ampr.org (localhost.ampr.org [127.0.0.1]) by nospam.hiwaay.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA20531 for ; Sat, 27 Jun 1998 17:29:51 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dkelly@n4hhe.ampr.org) Message-Id: <199806272229.RAA20531@nospam.hiwaay.net> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG From: David Kelly Subject: Re: Does it's true? In-reply-to: Message from Josef Grosch of "Sat, 27 Jun 1998 13:06:10 PDT." <19980627130610.B26300@mooseriver.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 27 Jun 1998 17:29:50 -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Josef Grosch writes: > When I lived in northern Minnesota, around Ely and Duluth, I drove a truck > that had the very large dent in the side where a full grown male moose had > rammed it. This moose took offense to me being in his territory and chased > me. The only think that save me from being trampled was my truck. A moose > is not an animal to be trifled with, especially so during the rut. Boy! Its a good thing that moose didn't have one of those guns some seem to think there are too many of. In the fit of rage that moose might have hurt somebody, if only he had a gun. I counter there are too many computers. They are too cheap. Any damn fool can buy one and find instructions on how to wreck havoc with it. Doesn't even require a license. All sarcasm aside, neither a gun, computer, high powered automobile, (I own a number of each), or alcohol are the causes of certain societal ills. Some people just have problems and happen to use high powered tools to exercise that problem. The tool doesn't cause the problem. If one tool is scarce, another will be found. Or invented. My biggest frustration is when I observe government, doctors, corporate management, educators, etc., treat the symptoms of a problem rather than search for the problem itself. Gun control only treats the symptoms, not the problem itself. I think firearms ought to be taught in school, along with sex education, and driver education. After school hours I fired more rounds with my Dad while in elementary school and high school than I've fired in the past 20 years. I grew up with a respect for firearms that my non-shooting schoolmates have demonstrated they lack. It wasn't terribly uncommon for one to swear at a car who had just cut them sort, "If I had a gun I'd blow him away!" Don't know of any schoolmates who have aquired a gun and "blown somebody away", but such a thought was almost unimaginable to me. And would be to anybody who had firearms training from my Dad. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@nospam.hiwaay.net ===================================================================== The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message