From owner-svn-src-head@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 13 15:32:43 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-src-head@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 270141065670; Mon, 13 Jul 2009 15:32:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) Received: from cyrus.watson.org (cyrus.watson.org [65.122.17.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E80688FC25; Mon, 13 Jul 2009 15:32:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) Received: from bigwig.baldwin.cx (66.111.2.69.static.nyinternet.net [66.111.2.69]) by cyrus.watson.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 9B49B46B39; Mon, 13 Jul 2009 11:32:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from jhbbsd.hudson-trading.com (unknown [209.249.190.8]) by bigwig.baldwin.cx (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 85E538A097; Mon, 13 Jul 2009 11:32:41 -0400 (EDT) From: John Baldwin To: Scott Long Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 11:20:00 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <37131.1247214217@critter.freebsd.dk> <4A56FC7C.8060107@samsco.org> In-Reply-To: <4A56FC7C.8060107@samsco.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200907131120.01016.jhb@freebsd.org> X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0.1 (bigwig.baldwin.cx); Mon, 13 Jul 2009 11:32:41 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.95.1 at bigwig.baldwin.cx X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.5 required=4.2 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,RDNS_NONE autolearn=no version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on bigwig.baldwin.cx Cc: svn-src-head@freebsd.org, Poul-Henning Kamp , src-committers@freebsd.org, Scott Long , svn-src-all@freebsd.org Subject: Re: svn commit: r195534 - in head: etc/mtree include lib/libcam sbin/camcontrol share/man/man4 sys/cam sys/cam/ata sys/cam/scsi sys/conf sys/dev/advansys sys/dev/ahci sys/dev/aic7xxx sys/dev/amd sys/de... X-BeenThere: svn-src-head@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: SVN commit messages for the src tree for head/-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 15:32:43 -0000 On Friday 10 July 2009 4:31:56 am Scott Long wrote: > Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > > In message <200907100818.n6A8I8p1011853@svn.freebsd.org>, Scott Long writes: > > > >> ATA drives are accessed via 'ada' device nodes. > > > > It there a particular good reason why we insist on making this > > silly mistake every five years ? > > > > I am pretty sure you were around when Justin won friends by renaming > > the SCSI disk devices ? > > > > 1. I clearly stated that the name is experimental and that a change in > the future is possible. > > 2. If the name does change, and if it changes to either 'ad' or 'da', it > can't happen until the newbus stuff is done first. I desperately need > help with that, btw, starting with removing the need for Giant from > newbus. Contact myself and/or Warner for details. > > 3. Exposing driver name details as the primary handle for users is > something that I disagree with, and I'd ultimately like to see every > direct-access block device in the system be called 'disk'. Or "phk". > Or "bde" for all I care =-) > > 4. While feelings may have been hurt 12 years ago, life did, in fact, go > on. Actaully, if all you want is a unified name you can use unrdr (or whatever it is called) to manage the daX unit number namespace without having to have all of new-bus to do that for you. -- John Baldwin