From owner-freebsd-chat Wed Jun 27 17:11:31 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mb1i0.ns.pitt.edu (mb1i0.ns.pitt.edu [136.142.186.35]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBFEE37B405; Wed, 27 Jun 2001 17:11:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pfg1+@pitt.edu) Received: from pitt.edu ("port 1105"@[136.142.89.102]) by pitt.edu (PMDF V5.2-32 #41462) with ESMTP id <01K59VFKYHLS002HUI@mb1i0.ns.pitt.edu>; Wed, 27 Jun 2001 20:11:27 EST Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 20:21:44 -0400 From: "Pedro F. Giffuni" Subject: Re: Microsoft giving back to FreeBSD !! To: John Baldwin Cc: crap@FreeBSD.org Message-id: <3B3A7898.3A4AD201@pitt.edu> Organization: University of Pittsburgh MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Win98; U) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Accept-Language: en,pdf,es-CO References: Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Well...yes, we are being used, but that's what BSD is about. All in all, we have two options..embrace them or ignore them, and the final decision will be made by the end users. Are windoze users interested in FreeBSD now? Is Yahoo (to mention one company, replace any other name here) interested in .NET if it's more open than Java? What they are doing is perfectly legal and ethically correct; I don't think they will be able to "squash" the GPL though. I think this will be good for FreeBSD.. but if the interested parties are not careful it will bring harm to Linux and to Java. I don't care much about the first one, and believe me...they will survive. About Java and what it means to the Internet, let's say they are in great danger unless they react now (and I don't think they will) but that is not our fault. About these comments about breaking apart the Opensource community; read well the FUD about BSD vs GPL and you will conclude that we have never been together. This ends up being a slight advantage in favor of Microsoft, but it's not MS's fault. As I said the could just as well release them under the same license for Linux. Pedro. ps...what is crap@FreeBSD.org ... nevermind, I'll find out :). John Baldwin wrote: > > On 27-Jun-01 Pedro F Giffuni wrote: > > This is very cool! > > > > http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/a/dotnet/2001/06/27/dotnet.html > > I'm not sure it's really cool. M$ is just using us to snub the GPL crowd. > Presumably if they actually manage to use BSD to squash the GPl, they will just > turn around and attack BSD next. > > -- > > John Baldwin -- http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ > PGP Key: http://www.baldwin.cx/~john/pgpkey.asc > "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message