From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue Jul 11 08:48:36 1995 Return-Path: hackers-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id IAA24960 for hackers-outgoing; Tue, 11 Jul 1995 08:48:36 -0700 Received: from inet-gw-3.pa.dec.com (inet-gw-3.pa.dec.com [16.1.0.33]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id IAA24954 for ; Tue, 11 Jul 1995 08:48:30 -0700 Received: from muggsy.lkg.dec.com by inet-gw-3.pa.dec.com (5.65/24Feb95) id AA12652; Tue, 11 Jul 95 08:40:51 -0700 Received: from whydos.lkg.dec.com by muggsy.lkg.dec.com (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) with SMTP id AA22795; Tue, 11 Jul 1995 11:39:32 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by whydos.lkg.dec.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id LAA18237; Tue, 11 Jul 1995 11:41:15 GMT Message-Id: <199507111141.LAA18237@whydos.lkg.dec.com> X-Authentication-Warning: whydos.lkg.dec.com: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol To: dennis@et.htp.com (dennis) Cc: Tom Samplonius , freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Wanted: 100bT EISA ethernet recommendation In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 11 Jul 1995 11:18:12 -0400." <199507111518.LAA07160@mail.htp.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.5omega 10/6/94 Date: Tue, 11 Jul 1995 11:41:14 +0000 From: Matt Thomas Sender: hackers-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > Tom's opinion.... > > > >On Tue, 11 Jul 1995, dennis wrote: > > > >> The question is, who would build one? EISA cards are too expensive to build > >> and EISA is too slow for a 100mbs medium. If someone is making them then > >> I'll bet they have a much bigger marketing dept than engineering. > > > > That's wrong. EISA is fast enough for 100mbs ethernet. > > It can't be wrong, because any way you slice it its an opinion. Under light > load anything will work, but under heavy load its nice if your bus > throughput is greater than the bandwidth. If your EISA card is bus mastering > it can take over your machine under heavy load. For a workstation, sure, but > not for a server. And EISA is too expensive for a workstation. EISA bus throughput is 33MB/s while 100baseT is at max 12.5MB/s. Since that's < 30% of the entire bus bandwidth, it is more than fast enough. (Consider that EISA handles FAST SCSI-2 just fine and that's about the bandwidth). Back to the original question: Intel and SMC both make EISA 100baseT card but none of them are based on the DC21140. I think AMD makes one too. But none have FreeBSD drivers. Cheers, Matt Thomas Internet: matt@lkg.dec.com 3am Software Foundry WWW URL: Westford, MA Disclaimer: Digital disavows all knowledge of this message