From owner-freebsd-current Tue Aug 29 2:15:18 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from guru.mired.org (zoom0-195.telepath.com [216.14.0.195]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3426137B42C for ; Tue, 29 Aug 2000 02:15:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 13366 invoked by uid 100); 29 Aug 2000 09:15:09 -0000 From: Mike Meyer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14763.32541.584299.589745@guru.mired.org> Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 04:15:09 -0500 (CDT) To: Brooks Davis Cc: Greg Lehey , Warner Losh , Maxim Sobolev , Donn Miller , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: hints static wiring In-Reply-To: <20000828182921.A31041@Odin.AC.HMC.Edu> References: <867l92lw8e.wl@tkc.att.ne.jp> <20000827184037.A22500@Odin.AC.HMC.Edu> <14762.8323.382969.782508@guru.mired.org> <39AA3882.914FC0A0@cvzoom.net> <14762.14890.276820.183791@guru.mired.org> <39AA5DC6.8D73081B@FreeBSD.org> <14762.24829.363032.115605@guru.mired.org> <39AA6699.41E12730@FreeBSD.org> <14762.26659.335.344828@guru.mired.org> <20000829102526.A11422@wantadilla.lemis.com> <20000828182921.A31041@Odin.AC.HMC.Edu> X-Mailer: VM 6.72 under 21.1 (patch 10) "Capitol Reef" XEmacs Lucid X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`;h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG First, I want to thank everyone for taking the time to explain what was going on. It's now clear that I was confused, and things aren't as bad as I thought. I'd like to see the Makefile changes so that if there wasn't an empty /boot/device.hints, one was created, but that's relatively minor. Brooks Davis writes: > This is more correct. The new world order says that hints are not in the > kernel, instead they are loaded by the loader at boot time. By default > they are loaded from /boot/device.hints. Without hints in some form old, > stupid devices don't work. Unfortunatly, PC consoles are old, stupid > devices for compatability reasons so it's best to have a working hints > file around. Just curious - are there no defaults at all if you don't have a hints file somewhere? That seems a bit strange.