Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 11:40:42 +0200 From: "Andrew W. Nosenko" <andrew.w.nosenko@gmail.com> To: Garrett Cooper <yanefbsd@gmail.com> Cc: Paul Schmehl <pschmehl_lists@tx.rr.com>, freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Dead projects in ports tree Message-ID: <6161f3180903030140q40098f89nfbdf2ed94f5e677f@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <7d6fde3d0903030026s7cd80ac5ia2e596d94c6dbba6@mail.gmail.com> References: <7d6fde3d0902281509v6a98521as618421daf52b3abe@mail.gmail.com> <7d6fde3d0902281605u2a251513q44ccfc0c8226c9fd@mail.gmail.com> <20090302223600.GD29616@redundancy.redundancy.org> <5282E09CCA57B5914BF69048@utd65257.utdallas.edu> <7d6fde3d0903030026s7cd80ac5ia2e596d94c6dbba6@mail.gmail.com>
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On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 10:26 AM, Garrett Cooper <yanefbsd@gmail.com> wrote: > On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 3:34 PM, Paul Schmehl <pschmehl_lists@tx.rr.com> wrote: >> I completely agree. So long as a port is being used and people find it >> useful, I think it would be a mistake to remove those ports. In fact I >> suspect it wouldn't be long before someone was submitting a PR to reinstate >> the port. Perfect example is converters/unix2dos, last updated in 2003 and >> converters/mpack, last updated in 2006. >> >> I still use both, and I would be irritated if they were removed from ports. >> >> A lack of development activity != a lack of usefulness > > I agree for projects like that that are feature complete. > > However, projects like xmms drag on the use of gtk 1.2 and will soon > be out of date in terms of file formats, decoding capability, etc. > Then again I suppose when that day comes xmms will be marked busted > and eventually shuffled out of the tree, so I'll shut my trap about > that :). And what? Until gtk+-1.2 removed from ports, the xmms perfectly able to compile and run, at least from the gtk+ dependency side. Anyone, who don't like gtk-1.2 installed may just don't install both xmms and gtk+-1.2, just like me. Personal preferences are just personal preferences and no more. About file formats: my 5 years hardware dvd player also has limited decoding capability and formats support in comparison with today ones, but these capabilities are enough for me. And it still work. Now question: why I need to replace it if all just works and fits my requirements? The same logic may be applied to software too: why drop/replace if it just works? When it xmms occur to be uncompiliable or unable to run -- then yes, it may be reason to abandon it. But when it works ... see no reasons to remove. Frankly, I would glad to see absolutelly another discussion: not about dropping software that works (and as far as I understand, which port is maintained), but about making needed but broken software work again (e.g. valgrind, which is compiliable, but absolutelly not runnable since freebsd-7.0, and unfortunatelly has no replacement...) -- Andrew W. Nosenko <andrew.w.nosenko@gmail.com>
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