From owner-freebsd-chat Wed May 5 15: 3:44 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from lariat.lariat.org (lariat.lariat.org [206.100.185.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B91415CBA for ; Wed, 5 May 1999 15:03:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brett@lariat.org) Received: from mustang.lariat.org (IDENT:ppp0.lariat.org@lariat.lariat.org [206.100.185.2]) by lariat.lariat.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA26589; Wed, 5 May 1999 16:03:30 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <4.2.0.37.19990505155301.04422590@localhost> X-Sender: brett@localhost X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.37 (Beta) Date: Wed, 05 May 1999 15:59:15 -0600 To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" From: Brett Glass Subject: Re: PCWeek article by Anne Chen -- Comments Cc: freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <37794.925940364@zippy.cdrom.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 02:39 PM 5/5/99 -0700, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > Doing a better job would take a great deal of time and effort. If I could > > arrange, somehow, to generate enough of an income stream from it, I'd do > > it. > >Sorry, that's a cop-out attitude and it's like saying "I'd like to >learn to climb, but I lack the funds to ascend Everest." Easily said by someone who's PAID to work on FreeBSD. >You don't >have to go for the #1 difficulty challenge right away and, in fact, >it's almost always foolhardy to try and start hammering in the big end >of the wedge. Pick something small and start from there, as many fine >efforts have been started. Any effective effort is going to need more funding and more effort than any one person can put in without breaking the bank. > You think the folks who created >freebsdzine, daemonnews, the freebsd diary, freebsdrocks and many >other fine (and effective) advocacy sites got paid money for it? You >think it takes a personal fortune in the bank to write an effective >magazine article? Despite all of those efforts, FreeBSD's share is lagging. Clearly, something else is needed. >A lot of people *complain* about how bad advocacy >is but very few actual do anything concrete about it, or even worse >(Brett) they somehow come to the conclusion that bashing the few folks >who *are* doing some kind of advocacy (and I'm not flying to Japan for >3 days at the end of this month for my *health*, to cite one example) >is somehow a productive and winning strategy. Uh, it's your *job*, Jordan. You're paid to do it. I'd like to be flown to Japan, too, but unfortunately no benefactor has appeared. > That's like saying >"we're grossly outnumbered, the enemy is attacking in human waves and >we're down to 2 guys and a sergeant. Quick, somebody shoot the >sergeant!" We're down to 2 guys because the sergeant shot the rest. Shooting down advocacy, Jordan -- which is what you've been doing -- is the equivalent of massive losses from "friendly" fire. --Brett To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message