From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Tue Feb 9 10:53:03 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94E17AA2155 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 2016 10:53:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ran@pandora.amnic.net) Received: from pandora.amnic.net (pandora.amnic.net [IPv6:2001:67c:21c:a610::11]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4F736139F for ; Tue, 9 Feb 2016 10:53:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ran@pandora.amnic.net) Received: from ran by pandora.amnic.net with local (Exim 4.86 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1aT5uj-000LWW-Bu; Tue, 09 Feb 2016 14:52:57 +0400 Subject: Re: Removing documentation In-Reply-To: <56B88664.3080004@marino.st> To: John Marino Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2016 14:52:57 +0400 (AMT) Sender: ran@pandora.amnic.net From: Hrant Dadivanyan CC: FreeBSD Mailing List X-PGP: https://amnic.net/pgpkeys/hrant.asc X-NCC-RegID: am.isoc X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL127 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Message-Id: X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Feb 2016 10:53:03 -0000 > > Then allow me to be the second. But then, I find poudriere > > unusable on my build system (I don't use ZFS and my memory is > > apparently too limited). Portmaster just does the right thing. > > > > We get that you don't like portmaster. So please don't use it. > > But don't deprive the rest of us. -- George > > Did you actually install it, use it, and compare? > Or are you just saying this based on what you think it does? > > So far every former portmaster use that tried it (really tried it) has > switch with one possible exception (he didn't see the rationale for the > build logic so I don't know if he kept using it or not). > > And not one person until Mattias said portmaster was "easier". > > BTW, if your system is too limited for poudriere, then likely you > couldn't use tmpfs with Synth, so you'd lose out on a lot of > performance. It would still be better than live building though. It's fine that there is such an excellent tool as synth, but in server environment, when only a few ports are installed, having a management port with 17 dependencies is not reasonable. From the very beginning portmaster works fine for me and, as far as I can see, for many other people. >From my point it's mandatory to have a lightweight tool like postmaster is and the question should be how to maintain it, instead of how limited it is. Thank you, Hrant > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ports-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Hrant Dadivanyan (aka Ran d'Adi) hrant(at)dadivanyan.net /* "Feci quod potui, faciant meliora potentes." */ ran(at)psg.com