From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue Feb 21 15:17:53 1995 Return-Path: hackers-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id PAA18657 for hackers-outgoing; Tue, 21 Feb 1995 15:17:53 -0800 Received: from plains.NoDak.edu (tinguely@plains.NoDak.edu [134.129.111.64]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with SMTP id PAA18651; Tue, 21 Feb 1995 15:17:48 -0800 Received: by plains.NoDak.edu; Tue, 21 Feb 1995 17:17:01 -0600 Date: Tue, 21 Feb 1995 17:17:01 -0600 From: Mark Tinguely Message-Id: <199502212317.AA23389@plains.NoDak.edu> To: bugs@warlock.win.net, jkh@freefall.cdrom.com Subject: Re: A "FreeBSD" Daemon Cc: hackers@freefall.cdrom.com Sender: hackers-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > Let me suggest something along the same lines. Ditch the daemon thing. > > Hmmmm. I'm glad I don't have your mailbox for the next couple of days! ;-) I have to disagree. cute mascots are good, and we should have one. but I have to agree with ditching the daemon. when people mis-understand your meaning and think you are insulting their religion you are in very deep doodoo. I think we all read the article a couple years back about the young lady stopping in a Texan diner while traveling home from a Usenix conference. BSD and their artwork has been restricted to a small group. if you want to go mainstream, you can't wear a acid-rock band like logo. a pop or mainstream rock logo (sun comes to mind). if we want taken serious, we have to project a serious image. that can be done with fun to show we are still creative and fun. but the average joe does not know the image of a daemon is different from a demon. and why risk the alienation when we can produce something new that conveys the same cute image? also isn't it about time we become FreeBSD not a free copy of BSD software? the U of California is our "mother", but FreeBSD is it's own person now, and it is time that we devolpe our own personality. --mark.