From owner-freebsd-chat Sat May 19 0:50: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from web13607.mail.yahoo.com (web13607.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.175.118]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BF8AF37B422 for ; Sat, 19 May 2001 00:50:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bzdik@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20010519075004.61029.qmail@web13607.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [64.122.12.184] by web13607.mail.yahoo.com; Sat, 19 May 2001 00:50:04 PDT Date: Sat, 19 May 2001 00:50:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Bzdik BSD Subject: Re: Opera ports to QNX but not BSD To: freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20010518215908.0476ec80@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Are we done with Opera? ;-) --- Brett Glass wrote: > At 09:52 PM 5/18/2001, Jamie Bowden wrote: > > >:What assumptions are you making about Wyoming that would lead you > to > >:believe that this is the case? > > > >State population density (or lack thereof in this case). I don't > see any > >indications that Wyoming is home to any major bandwidth either. > > We are home to more bandwidth than practically any other state, > because > we are traversed by the I-25 and I-80 corridors plus the Union > Pacific > and Burlington Northern railroad lines. MOST of the coast-to-coast > backbones go through Wyoming, and several nationwide providers have > switching and regeneration centers here. The University of Wyoming, > here in Laramie, is on Internet II and thus has massive amounts of > bandwidth. Still more bandwidth comes through on large microwave > links. Broadwing just fired up a huge fiber backbone that runs > within a mile of where I'm sitting.... We're looking at tapping in. > > >I'm not trying to pick a fight here Brett, but you're not exactly in > an > >urban setting by any stretch of the imagination. > > An urban setting does not necessarily correlate with the availability > of bandwidth. (Ask anyone in New York City who's tried to get DSL > from Verizon!) > > >I'd rather live in your setting personally, but this urban hell I > inhabit > >is where the jobs are. > > Actually, Cyberspace is where the jobs are. That's where I work... > the > nice part is that I get to live here. > > >:Plus hours of time redoing our spam filters, malware filters, mail > >:aliases, virtual host and user tables, list servers.... Not such a > small > >:task. > > > >Hours? Computers were designed to do exactly the sort of data > >manipulation you're talking about in an automated fashion. The > sed/awk > >bits to convert one format to another (on a test box of course) > shouldn't > >take that long. Testing is where hours come in, but those hours > were well > >spent if you will see a long term overall savings where your time is > >concerned. > > We do a lot of special things. We'd need to check to be sure that > the scripts worked as intended. > > >While I was by no means a top sendmail expert, I could and did > regularly > >edit the cf file without bothering to grab the manual. I've never > felt so > >good about dumping something that I spent so much time acquiring > skill > >with. > > I've edited the cf file, but don't pretend to know every piece of > magic > it contains. I do as much as I can with m4 macros, which are > themselves > tricky but still more manageable. > > Again, I'd have to learn about postfix or qmail before turning them > loose on key servers. Much of the spam I receive seems to have been > relayed by misconfigured qmail servers (though old versions of > Exchange > and Lotus Notes also rank high on the list). > > --Brett > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message