Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 09:36:11 -0400 (AST) From: The Hermit Hacker <scrappy@hub.org> To: Brett Glass <brett@lariat.org> Cc: Nocturne <dpilgrim@uswest.net>, "Matthew D. Fuller" <fullermd@futuresouth.com>, "Jordan K. Hubbard" <jkh@zippy.cdrom.com>, freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Guess we've lost the server market too...? Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.05.9903040925590.62944-100000@thelab.hub.org> In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990303115907.00978890@localhost>
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On Wed, 3 Mar 1999, Brett Glass wrote:
> At 09:00 AM 3/3/99 -0400, The Hermit Hacker wrote:
>
> >Here's a thought...due to the whole QT licensing issue a while back, KDE
> >appears to have gotten a bad name in the Linux community. I believe
> >RedHat went from distributing/backing KDE to moving tover to Gnome, as a
> >result...now that that issue is under-the-bridge, so to say, why don't we
> >jump behind the KDE developers?
>
> And get them to jump behind us? I've proposed before that they relicense
> under the MIT X license and serve as the default desktop for FreeBSD.
Why rely on someone else to "jump behind us"...let's jump behind them
instead...
First thing, we really really need to fix our port for KDE...I believe
its been stated in the past that the problem isn't the KDE port, but ports
in general, but you can't go into kde11 and type 'make install' if kde is
already installed...ports has no way to determine that the older version
*is* an older version, so it doesn't update things properly...
Second, all the KDE stuff should be 'centralized'...create an x11-kde
directory...give one place to go to to build it. Do the same for
x11-gnome if you want...having to go searching through the ports tree
trying to find the individual pieces is a pain.
Third, improve the KDE support. A mailing list dedicated to it or
something like that. I've been spending the past *long* time tryng to get
koffice built, and with our current port, it isn't possible. kdelibs has
to be compiled with --with-new-stuff enabled, but, from what I'm able to
tell, our compiler is much too out of date to compoile with that enabled,
and I hvaven't yet been able to do it with the egcs port either, since it
doesn't install a shared libstdc++ :(
Fourth, get it incorporated as an install option on the CD, seperate from
but dependant on, X...
Marc G. Fournier
Systems Administrator @ hub.org
primary: scrappy@hub.org secondary: scrappy@{freebsd|postgresql}.org
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