From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 6 18:46: 3 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A51237B401 for ; Sun, 6 Oct 2002 18:46:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1.informationwave.net (dipole.informationwave.net [199.74.235.3]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B56A43E81 for ; Sun, 6 Oct 2002 18:45:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from abe@informationwave.net) Received: by mail1.informationwave.net (Postfix, from userid 1007) id 180274F912; Sun, 6 Oct 2002 21:56:22 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2002 21:56:22 -0400 From: abe To: Adam Weinberger Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: fatal trap 12, system crashes Message-ID: <20021007015622.GA76148@dipole.informationwave.net> References: <20021007011110.GA66840@dipole.informationwave.net> <20021007010931.GE44643@vectors.cx> <20021007013027.GA71902@dipole.informationwave.net> <20021007013941.GF44643@vectors.cx> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20021007013941.GF44643@vectors.cx> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Oct 06, 2002 at 06:39:41PM -0700, Adam Weinberger wrote: > please don't forget to cc: the list when replying. > > you still haven't told me what is staying static. you're using different > hard drives. are you saying that all of a sudden, no matter what > computer you use, this happens? perhaps an airborne computer virus... Nothing is staying static. Even the IPFW rules have been changed. Perhaps that's the static component, IPFW is included. > > you say that the computer is not working. but yet you've replaced every > single item. including the hard drive. you installed a fresh version of > freebsd on a new drive, and it still crashed. with all other new > hardware. do i have that right? Yes. > > -Adam > > > >> (10.06.2002 @ 1830 PST): abe said, in 4.4K: << > > replaced the drive almost every other time. it crashes on network activity after ipfw loads > > the rules. That's why I was able to do an FTP install. I would guess it's with IPFW... Not > > sure though. > > > > -abe > > > > On Sun, Oct 06, 2002 at 06:09:31PM -0700, Adam Weinberger wrote: > > > man... that has got to be the longest line i've ever seen ::). consider > > > an enter key now and again. > > > > > > you've tested a great many peripherals and environments. what is it that > > > is staying static throughout your tests? the one particular drive with > > > the root dir on it? > > > > > > i'd install the src distros from the cdrom, and then run mergemaster(8) > > > to see if there's any weird configuration difference. > > > > > > also, how did you install via ftp if the machine crashes as soon as > > > there's network activity? or is this problem only present after the > > > install process? > > > > > > -Adam > > > > > > > > > >> (10.06.2002 @ 1811 PST): abe said, in 2.8K: << > > > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > > > I've got a rather odd issue, but not unique from what I've seen on > > > > other threads (whose solutions unfortunately did not work). I > > > > have had a machine running in a datacenter for 7 months if not > > > > more without problems, and 1.5 years prior to that without > > > > problems as well. The other night, suddenly the machine rebooted > > > > and came back up with a panic. This happened immediately after > > > > rc.firewall was run it appeared. I spent about 4 hours in the > > > > datacenter trying to diagnose the issue and had no luck so brought > > > > the machine home with me that night. I've been working on it for > > > > about a week now trying various methods of troubleshooting and > > > > haven't had any luck. I also tried to get a backtrace but that's > > > > not turning out so well either. It seems even with a debugging > > > > kernel and the correct options set in rc.conf for dumpdev and > > > > savecore it will produce no usable output, if any. /var/crash is > > > > empty aside from 'minfree'. With all of that said, as it may be > > > > obvious already this message is going to be a bit lengthy as I am > > > > going to try to provide as much detail as possible considering the > > > > lack of a backtrace. I have tried several hardware > > > > configurations, including brand new hardware. Two different CPUs > > > > (AMD thunderbird 700 and 750mhz), 7 different memory modules all > > > > tested via memtest with 12 iterations at least with no errors, 4 > > > > different network cards: 3com 3905b/c, dlink (rtl8129), and a > > > > netgear. I have used an abit kt7-raid, asus a7a 266, and another > > > > abit board. I have used 4 different hard disks, 2 western > > > > digitals, both brand new, and 2 maxtors, fairly new. I have also > > > > swapped out power supplies, cables, network equipment (switch, > > > > direct via crossover), etc. That's an idea of what I've done thus > > > > far with hardware, and to sum that up we can think of the hardware > > > > collectively as three different machines. As far as installation > > > > media goes, I've tried via FTP and cdrom. The systems I've used, > > > > are 4.5-RELEASE, 4.5-RELEASE-p20, 4.6.2-p2. I've reinstalled > > > > several times attempting to spot an error in installation or my > > > > methods. I've changed my rules for IPFW to very primitive ones to > > > > test, and had no luck. The minute after loading them, and then > > > > attempting to communicate with any type of network service, the > > > > machine panics. I have a video which is approximately 2 megs in > > > > size, and a photo of the error and it occuring. The video is at > > > > http://dipole.informationwave.net/~abe/crash.mpg, and the photo is > > > > http://dipole.informationwave.net/~abe/fbsd.jpg. If anyone has > > > > any ideas as to what could be causing this, or a solution, that'd > > > > be great. Also any other information that would assist in solving > > > > this issue that I haven't already provided will be given if > > > > requested. Any feedback would be greatly appreciated. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Abe > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe > > > > freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > > > > > > >> end of "fatal trap 12, system crashes" from abe << > > > > > > > > > -- > > > "Oh good, my dog found the chainsaw." > > > -Lilo, "Lilo & Stitch" > > > Adam Weinberger > > > adam@vectors.cx > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > > >> end of "Re: fatal trap 12, system crashes" from abe << > > > -- > "Oh good, my dog found the chainsaw." > -Lilo, "Lilo & Stitch" > Adam Weinberger > adam@vectors.cx > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message