From owner-freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 12 15:16:05 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-security@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2326B37B401 for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2003 15:16:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from amsfep16-int.chello.nl (amsfep16-int.chello.nl [213.46.243.26]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF4FF43F3F for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2003 15:16:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dodell@sitetronics.com) Received: from internal ([213.46.141.159]) by amsfep16-int.chello.nl (InterMail vM.5.01.05.17 201-253-122-126-117-20021021) with ESMTP id <20030812221602.OVVL10454.amsfep16-int.chello.nl@internal>; Wed, 13 Aug 2003 00:16:02 +0200 From: "Devon H. O'Dell" To: "'twig les'" , "'Darren Reed'" Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2003 00:16:00 +0200 Organization: SiteTronics Message-ID: <004201c3611f$4fda68a0$9f8d2ed5@internal> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4510 In-Reply-To: <20030812221326.25419.qmail@web10107.mail.yahoo.com> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 cc: security@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Certification (was RE: realpath(3) et al) X-BeenThere: freebsd-security@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Security issues [members-only posting] List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 22:16:05 -0000 Well this takes about $1,000,000 off our previous figure. --Devon > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- > Van: owner-freebsd-security@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd- > security@freebsd.org] Namens twig les > Verzonden: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 12:13 AM > Aan: Darren Reed > CC: security@freebsd.org > Onderwerp: Re: Certification (was RE: realpath(3) et al) > > Just saw this from eWeek. > > "IBM, which paid roughly $500,000 for the testing, and SuSE > (pronounced "SOOS-ah") were announcing the certification > jointly. " > > The article is here: > http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,3959,1212529,00.asp > > > > --- Darren Reed wrote: > > In some mail from twig les, sie said: > > > > > > I actually just asked about FreeBSD's status regarding > > Common > > > Criteria last week on -questions but no one knew; one guy > > > answered that it would be wasteful. Is this the cert on > > > everyone's mind? It would be nice to have this cert for the > > 5.x > > > line but I understand that it is massively expensive and the > > > resources may be better spent on development. Has the team > > > discussed this? > > > > Yes, evaluation is massively expensive. Why ? > > > > Because you have to pay someone (at consultant rates) to do > > the > > evaluation. A single firewall product, in Australia, can > > expect > > a cost of between $200k and $400k, I'm told. Now put that in > > perspective of size vs an entire operating system, including > > larger project overheads, etc, and the number swells > > dramatically. > > Oh, those numbers are in Australian Dollars. > > > > Darren > > > ===== > ----------------------------------------------------------- > Emo is what happens when the glee club goes punk. > ----------------------------------------------------------- > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software > http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-security@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-security > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-security- > unsubscribe@freebsd.org"