From owner-freebsd-advocacy Tue Jun 15 0:55:44 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (critter.freebsd.dk [212.242.40.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F6B514EE4; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 00:55:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id JAA05477; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 09:55:34 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) To: Nik Clayton Cc: core@freebsd.org, advocacy@freebsd.org, webmaster@freebsdmall.com Subject: Re: Tekmetrics tests In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 15 Jun 1999 00:01:34 BST." <19990615000134.A53585@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 09:55:34 +0200 Message-ID: <5475.929433334@critter.freebsd.dk> From: Poul-Henning Kamp Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I don't belive in "Certified Doughnut Handler" kind of certifications, they're mostly bogus, in a few select cases they're really bogus. I don't like the concept that the FreeBSD project should be backing such certification or test in any way. This may sound harsh, but I think I have some valid reasons: 1. It is very hard to make such a test fair on a global scale. (I did poorly on the "Dilbert" test: I live in Denmark and can't see the Dilbert TV series.) 2. The "3 minute deadline" is vastly unfair to people who don't have a good command of english. Are we going to offer spanish, japanese, italian, danish, swedish, hebrew and swahili versions as well ? 3. Do we know what exact quality we're trying to measure here ? Most of the Novell/M$ certified people I've met have merely shown that they're good at looking things up, not that they're imaginative and good at troubleshooting. If somebody wants to make such a certification, sure, good, fine, but don't involve the FreeBSD project in it. -- Poul-Henning Kamp FreeBSD coreteam member phk@FreeBSD.ORG "Real hackers run -current on their laptop." FreeBSD -- It will take a long time before progress goes too far! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message