From owner-freebsd-hackers Mon Jan 20 11:34:34 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id LAA20647 for hackers-outgoing; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 11:34:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id LAA20638 for ; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 11:34:31 -0800 (PST) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id MAA15903; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 12:18:17 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199701201918.MAA15903@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: Commerical applications (was: Development and validation To: jkh@time.cdrom.com (Jordan K. Hubbard) Date: Mon, 20 Jan 1997 12:18:17 -0700 (MST) Cc: terry@lambert.org, dennis@etinc.com, hackers@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <11673.853787078@time.cdrom.com> from "Jordan K. Hubbard" at Jan 20, 97 11:04:38 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > All I can say in a guiltlessly short paragraph is that shaking the > tree is fun, but rarely do only the bad fruit fall out of it as a > result, and tree-shaking as a general management technique leaves much > to be desired in any case since it seems that every budding management > consultant has a long set of reasons why Your Organizational Structure > is always drawn in the box with little smell rays coming from it and > His Organization Structure has a little halo drawn over it. At the > end of the day it's just all a lot of sound and fury, signifying > nothing. For what it's worth, I agree with you. I'm not "shaking the tree"; if you are seeing what I am doing as that, then you are misperceiving my intent, and we need to mututally decide how I can best express my actual intent in such a way as to get past your existing perceptual filters unbiased. I am also not attempting to be a management consultant, since you will notice that I have not presented a new chart with a box with a halo; in fact, I've publically criticized OpenBSD's chart with that picture on it. I *am* asking "Are these lines which I see smell rays?" If your answer is "yes", then the rest is implication and assumption on your part; I am only advocating self-examination, and it's not my fault if the examiner doesn't like what he sees. "The unexamined life is not worth living" -- Joseph Campbell, Rational Humanist Regards, Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers.