From owner-freebsd-chat Sat Nov 18 23: 8:57 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from lariat.org (lariat.org [12.23.109.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 624BA37B479 for ; Sat, 18 Nov 2000 23:08:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from mustang.lariat.org (IDENT:ppp0.lariat.org@lariat.org [12.23.109.2]) by lariat.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA22595; Sun, 19 Nov 2000 00:08:29 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20001119000021.045baab0@localhost> X-Sender: brett@localhost X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2000 00:08:23 -0700 To: Greg Lehey From: Brett Glass Subject: Re: GPL rant number 31391 (was: Jordan Hubbard on Darwin) Cc: Brad Knowles , chat@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <20001119165527.L52433@echunga.lemis.com> References: <4.3.2.7.2.20001118222633.046bb550@localhost> <4.3.2.7.2.20001118184345.045f1d90@localhost> <20001119111646.C5877@echunga.lemis.com> <4.3.2.7.2.20001118142924.00cb6850@localhost> <20001119111646.C5877@echunga.lemis.com> <4.3.2.7.2.20001118184345.045f1d90@localhost> <4.3.2.7.2.20001118222633.046bb550@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 11:25 PM 11/18/2000, Greg Lehey wrote: >Grrr. If you can rant about GPL, let me at least vent my spleen that >you have mangled Brad's message by removing the line breaks. What >junk did that? > >> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Looks like you've answered your own question. Yes, I happen to be working on a Windows client attached to my FreeBSD server. Sorry if things wrapped oddly; I try to remember to force Eudora not to wrap messages. >You complain about the GPL, but you're happy with Microsoft? That I >really don't understand. Frankly, I'd like to eliminate software from both the GPL *and* Microsoft from my infrastructure, because both organizations engage in unethical, predatory, and destructive practices. But for now, there's even GPLed stuff in FreeBSD (sigh).... >> Seriously: Linux was only started in the early 90's, and GCC in the >> 80's. There's no need to exceed one's lifespan to produce BETTER >> code, so long as there's a concerted effort to make FreeBSD free. > >Well, I thought we had that effort, and that it had succeeded. I >suppose it all depends on who makes the rules. FreeBSD is not free so long as it depends upon non-free software. GPLed software is not free, despite Stallman's rhetoric. A truly free software license places NO restrictions on what you can do with the code -- only upon what you can do to the programmer (e.g. you may be required to give him credit or not to sue him for bugs). --Brett Glass To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message