From nobody Fri Dec 3 17:03:23 2021 X-Original-To: questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DC9218BD419 for ; Fri, 3 Dec 2021 17:03:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jim@mailman-hosting.com) Received: from maurice.jlkmail.com (maurice.jlkmail.com [104.250.132.154]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4J5K0d0vMRz4dWX for ; Fri, 3 Dec 2021 17:03:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jim@mailman-hosting.com) Received: from maurice.jlkmail.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by maurice.jlkmail.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CE2B24C04F9 for ; Fri, 3 Dec 2021 12:03:08 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d= mailman-hosting.com; h=content-type:content-type:mime-version :subject:subject:references:in-reply-to:message-id:to:from:from :date:date; s=dkim; t=1638550986; x=1639414987; bh=Si3YUIkhXGXzC P1u2l3No3kre5Bs6QWgOa8meSu4p/Q=; b=f/uGi0YoBiwrdJuzRf+L18YhVK9Xr SIe28eaVq+Js6QN3zlVqMM8VDg659/HoTAsoZLixh9jtOFmRPgBNOzGo8hz2mDbD 2ml61XtM2VxCchW5baMxnXHNQp41ONMO4RFTruBwi3BlHmN/KMXC82b07o9d/v4o 1+CgDPDnr8OtJQ= X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at maurice.jlkmail.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.899 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.899 tagged_above=-999 required=6.31 tests=[ALL_TRUSTED=-1, BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from maurice.jlkmail.com ([127.0.0.1]) by maurice.jlkmail.com (maurice.jlkmail.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id b-2ET-8XjmKq for ; Fri, 3 Dec 2021 12:03:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.0.4] (ip68-98-243-82.hr.hr.cox.net [68.98.243.82]) by maurice.jlkmail.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 8DF3324C03E6; Fri, 3 Dec 2021 12:03:05 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2021 12:03:23 -0500 From: Mailman Hosting To: questions@freebsd.org, Ralf Mardorf Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20211203172214.04695a99@archlinux> References: <61AA1C30.3050702@gmail.com> <9bbb870e-669b-223d-9acd-f6f2e052d97b@kicp.uchicago.edu> <20211203172214.04695a99@archlinux> Subject: Re: We would like to be an agent for FreeBSD in China X-Readdle-Message-ID: e9415de9-d8bb-49cd-a424-5c7101540dc0@Spark List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="61aa4de4_519b500d_1119" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4J5K0d0vMRz4dWX X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[] X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N --61aa4de4_519b500d_1119 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline This has become incredibly off topic and political. It's also the quickest way to get this list blocked in China. Now who would that serve? As for comment about people getting the government they deserve, that is true of countries with free and fair elections, but not so much in others. Did Ugandans deserve Idi Admin's reign of cannibalism and terror? I could list others if you like. The reasons why China has the government it does are complex, dating back to WWII, and are beyond the control of the OP. On that note, he is asking for help. If you (all of you) have nothing to offer in that regard, suggesting that he overthrow the government is really pointless. Jim Ohlstein On Dec 3, 2021, 11:23 AM -0500, Ralf Mardorf , wrote: > On Fri, 3 Dec 2021 08:12:04 -0600, Valeri Galtsev wrote: > > I kept repeating to myself: the people do deserve the government they > > have. > > Hi Valeri, > > this isn't necessarily true. The keyword is "colonialism", not > only related to China, but as an example, let's stay with China. Why do > people from Hong Kong deserve what's happening there? > > Regards, > Ralf > --61aa4de4_519b500d_1119--