From owner-freebsd-chat Thu Sep 27 5:14:45 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from nef.ens.fr (nef.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49B1E37B415 for ; Thu, 27 Sep 2001 05:14:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from corto.lpt.ens.fr (corto.lpt.ens.fr [129.199.122.2]) by nef.ens.fr (8.10.1/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id f8RCETN84558 ; Thu, 27 Sep 2001 14:14:29 +0200 (CEST) Received: from (rsidd@localhost) by corto.lpt.ens.fr (8.9.3/jtpda-5.3.1) id OAA56621 ; Thu, 27 Sep 2001 14:14:23 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2001 14:14:23 +0200 From: Rahul Siddharthan To: Craig Harding Cc: tlambert2@mindspring.com, chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Helping victims of terror Message-ID: <20010927141423.E54588@lpt.ens.fr> References: <3BAC3644.1CB0C626@mindspring.com> <3BAD1FAE.2F3D40F5@mindspring.com> <20010923011557.B60374@jake.akitanet.co.uk> <015e01c143c8$c93505a0$89941bd8@speakeasy.net> <015d01c14519$80553010$3309f540@bigsky> <3BB0CA62.B1F189A9@mindspring.com> <3BB27025.52611CA7@outpost.co.nz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3BB27025.52611CA7@outpost.co.nz>; from crh@outpost.co.nz on Thu, Sep 27, 2001 at 12:17:41PM +1200 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.4-STABLE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Craig Harding said on Sep 27, 2001 at 12:17:41: > Terry Lambert wrote: > > > If my former employee shoots my neighbor, I'm not going to care > > whether he was my former employee or not. > > If you trained your employee to shoot, and then included a healthy > supply of weapons in his severance package (and the address of a mate > who could continue to supply him with guns cheap when those ones run > out), can you really claim no responsibility or involvement when he > shoots your neighbour? Stated that way, it all looks familiar now. Though your question seems rhetorical to the rest of the world, many Americans will answer "indeed, they can claim no responsibility." This is the familiar gun-control debate again. The manufacture, supply, and free sale of guns have no connection with violence, and there is nothing wrong with bearing arms: indeed, it's your constitutional right. What your employee did with those weapons is his business, not yours. On the other hand, if you were distributing not guns, but programs to let the user read e-books in a manner not authorised by the manufacturer -- *that's* a different matter entirely. That can land you in jail for up to 25 years, even if you're from another country, and did this work there, where it's legal. Aarrgh. R To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message