From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 11 20:14:51 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E9C41065678 for ; Tue, 11 Oct 2011 20:14:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nvass@gmx.com) Received: from mailout-eu.gmx.com (mailout-eu.gmx.com [213.165.64.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0EF1E8FC14 for ; Tue, 11 Oct 2011 20:14:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 11 Oct 2011 20:14:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (EHLO [192.168.73.192]) [91.140.115.198] by mail.gmx.com (mp-eu005) with SMTP; 11 Oct 2011 22:14:49 +0200 X-Authenticated: #46156728 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+siykUrMWsz8e0mycGlKn51ZZBwZhA2RRJYKN5ZZ 2uwkRA0NWYOC77 Message-ID: <4E94A3B4.6000601@gmx.com> Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 23:14:44 +0300 From: Nikos Vassiliadis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.17) Gecko/20110414 Thunderbird/3.1.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Polytropon References: <20111011160619.840c69f8.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20111011160619.840c69f8.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Turning system accounting data into money X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 20:14:51 -0000 On 10/11/2011 5:06 PM, Polytropon wrote: > This is _not_ a spam message trying to sell something > stupid to the list. I'm just searching for a solution > to turn consumed computing resources into a number and > a currency symbol. :-) > > Reason: A growing amount of (my) customers seems to > like this concept: They speed a low fee for access to > systems and applications, and they want to pay according > to what they did with that system. The access fee covers > access and some basic services (backup& quota), and for > anything "more advanced" they want to be charged per > "units" used, or per "consumed resources". This can be dialog > time (SSH), disk I/O, disk occupied, pages printed (can happen) > or pages required to print on exceptional specific forms > (can happen once or twice a year and is charged with an > additional fee for fold, staple& mutilate). > > Sounds stupid? I have _real_ customers intendedly > requesting that payment model (instead of "just pay > amount n Euro a month and do whatever you like"). > > Accidentally, I remembered history. > > So I thought: This funcitonality has been present on > UNIX systems for many decades. But _how_ to use it? I > know there's the command set for accounting, for example > the "ac" command. But what does its output "total 7264.15" > mean? There also are "acct" (process accounting), "sa" > (for system accounting) and "pac" (for printer accounting, > just dooesn't seem to work with CUPS). > > I'd also like to use the /etc/csh.logout resp. ~/.logout > mechanism. When a user logs in, he will be presented the > program he uses (or a menu, in case he uses different ones). > This can also be a regular "remote desktop" session. When > he logs out, a message should be displayed that informs > him how much will be charged for the session. At the end > of the month, he should get an invoice with the proper > accumulated amount. > > For example, if a user wishes to issue a "make a backup > _now_, because I intendedly want _this_ current state > backed up _now_", this will be seen as additional I/O > load and disk occupation (because it's handled aside of > the regular backup runs that should be part of the > "basic package" charged with the "conneciton fee"). > Or as I said, he issues printing for stuff he cannot > print at home, so he will be charged for 500 pages. > And in case he transfers 10 GB data in, and 10 GB data > out, he will be charged for that traffic, as well as > for the I/O. > > The sessions in questions will be SSH sessions (text mode) > as well as SSH/X sessions (remote desktops). > > Maybe someone already uses something similar he wants > to share? Suggestions and inspirations are welcome. > > > > Yes, the builtin accounting facilities do most of the stuff you are interested in. Just add 'accounting_enable="YES"' in your /etc/rc.conf, run '/etc/rc.d/accounting start' and use sa to examine the output. I believe the per-user accounting will fit the bill nicely. You did not mention jails, right? The networking part perhaps can be a firewall's job, though I don't know if the per-user IP traffic rules work properly. There were some problems regarding this ages ago... The builtin printing stuff I believe is for use with the ancient printing tools and I know nothing about CUPS... Hey, these are pretty old stuff you are looking for or perhaps this email was stuck in the mail server's queue for 25 years;) HTH, Nikos