From nobody Sat Jun 26 22:11:42 2021 X-Original-To: x11@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6758211F4688 for ; Sat, 26 Jun 2021 22:11:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp.rcn.com (smtp.rcn.com [69.168.97.78]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4GC7Pr1z15z3ql2 for ; Sat, 26 Jun 2021 22:11:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=rcn.com; s=20180516; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@rcn.com; t=1624745503; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=M9QvciY/SUb1MtEimuR8UPIV4bg=; b=HZZbltxZwdWM11o5kWIk4jjZ88VROiVQmGbxPS9buU6+tk4gCc2ykJdZs5xdgdKk wxJygZdF7SoBT8W1enn4lw2dAVBqXt9L3L6FXh4QgepKDTay07TESeM+/1gQk29B NTQ7ZkWCKa5QH5F65W0xkPZiitIz5gJ6hIWJIM2oe3WNK+tplv+1OTXOwNtQ9hUE JmEA0T6KcmLEP4YZOnhK8El6n7mz2KEC1WIU4a15w8hQaUCLQVhrVkDa8IyapFB6 NpezPJ5WZRKKq2Exg6HrYk8gHRuKoPUZUYbpZgKe3XrlnoaMwofu9TcbmlA/KOD+ uGvCLdipLK2QvzzW2DuIgg==; X-Authed-Username: cm9iZXJ0aHVmZkByY24uY29t Received: from [130.44.129.206] ([130.44.129.206:30685] helo=jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) by smtp.rcn.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.6.25.56547 r(Core:3.6.25.0)) with ESMTPSA (cipher=AES256-GCM-SHA384) id A4/D0-34504-E16A7D06; Sat, 26 Jun 2021 18:11:43 -0400 Message-ID: <24791.42526.208238.436624@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2021 18:11:42 -0400 List-Id: X11 List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-x11 List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Robert Huff To: Greg V CC: x11@freebsd.org, questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Old NVIDIA card, new FreeBSD = failure? In-Reply-To: <778F35B8-10F3-4D4D-8200-A235FD9A0762@unrelenting.technology> References: <36919.1624649280@segfault.tristatelogic.com> <24790.13300.679983.900189@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <778F35B8-10F3-4D4D-8200-A235FD9A0762@unrelenting.technology> X-Mailer: VM 8.2.0b under 27.2 (amd64-portbld-freebsd14.0) X-Vade-Verdict: clean X-Vade-Analysis: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgeduledrfeehuddgtdegucetufdoteggodetrfdotffvucfrrhhofhhilhgvmecuufgjpfetvefqtfdptfevpfdpqfgfvfenuceurghilhhouhhtmecufedtudenucesvcftvggtihhpihgvnhhtshculddquddttddmnecujfgurhepkfffgggtgffhvffujghfofesthejredtredtvdenucfhrhhomheptfhosggvrhhtucfjuhhffhcuoehrohgsvghrthhhuhhffhesrhgtnhdrtghomheqnecuggftrfgrthhtvghrnhephefgteegtedthfeuudeikeevjefgteevveffteekleefjefhjedvffefhefgvedtnecukfhppedufedtrdeggedruddvledrvddtieenucevlhhushhtvghrufhiiigvpedtnecurfgrrhgrmhepihhnvghtpedufedtrdeggedruddvledrvddtiedphhgvlhhopehjvghruhhsrghlvghmrdhlihhtthgvrhgrthhushdrohhrghdrlhhithhtvghrrghtuhhsrdhorhhgpdhmrghilhhfrhhomheprhhosggvrhhthhhufhhfsehrtghnrdgtohhmpdhrtghpthhtohepghhrvghgsehunhhrvghlvghnthhinhhgrdhtvggthhhnohhlohhghidphhhoshhtpehsmhhtphdrrhgtnhdrtghmhhdrshihnhgrtghorhdrtghomhdpshhpfhepshhofhhtfhgrihhlpdgukhhimheppdetuhhthhdqfghsvghrpehrohgsvghrthhhuhhffh X-Vade-Client: RCN X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4GC7Pr1z15z3ql2 X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[] X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N Greg V : > Robert Huff : > > > (For anyone in my position: I _think_ the RX 460 and above > >support GCN 2.1, which is what I _think_ is the bottom-end > >specification. Cards matching this number seem to start at about > >US $50.) > > GCN is the name of the GPU architecture, not something a GPU > "supports".. Got that; the "support" is from the software. I have two conflicting desires: a) I want to run modern applications ... on the latest stable version of X ... using an actively maintained and improved version of amdgpu/drm ... working with reasonably high-performance hardware. b) I have a very limited budget, and would ideally like to be able to use this on older systems - say ones with a PCIe 2.0 expansion slot. Finding a card that meets these specifications has been ... educational. That's why I'm hoping someone more knowledgable has done the work and would be willing to publish it. Respectfully, Robert Huff