From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 24 17:34:41 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8A2716A4CE for ; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 17:34:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from troutmask.apl.washington.edu (troutmask.apl.washington.edu [128.208.78.105]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEA7E43FE0 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 17:34:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu) Received: from troutmask.apl.washington.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) hAP1YU8u062539; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 17:34:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu) Received: (from sgk@localhost)hAP1YUlS062538; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 17:34:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sgk) From: Steve Kargl To: Frank Mayhar Message-ID: <20031125013430.GA62414@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> References: <200311251049.18227.doconnor@gsoft.com.au> <200311250106.hAP16qNp018512@realtime.exit.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200311250106.hAP16qNp018512@realtime.exit.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org cc: Andrew Gallatin Subject: Re: 40% slowdown with dynamic /bin/sh X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 01:34:41 -0000 X-Original-Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 17:34:30 -0800 X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 01:34:41 -0000 On Mon, Nov 24, 2003 at 05:06:52PM -0800, Frank Mayhar wrote: > Daniel O'Connor wrote: > > What _REAL WORLD_ task does this slow down? > > I think the point was that, in this particular "worst" case, it's a forty > percent performance hit. What's the average case? What's the case for a > "real world" pipeline with a lot of tiny little static binaries? > > I dislike this decision enough that I'm actually considering going away > from FreeBSD, something I really had never for a moment thought possible. > (snip) >> >> If it is for you then just build your world with static root. > > Kind of defeats the purpose, don't you think? > Let's see. You dislike the dynamic root decision enough that you are considering the abandonment of FreeBSD. Then when you're told that you can still build a static root if you need/want it, you make a sarcastic remark. Would you some ice cream while you eat your cake? -- Steve