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Message-ID: <20210414192235.2e4d3846@archlinux> In-Reply-To: <20210414104640.344f3345bfa5fb7e6790253e@sohara.org> References: <2371411618364379@vla3-7c930ca38d8d.qloud-c.yandex.net> <20210414104640.344f3345bfa5fb7e6790253e@sohara.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4FL8S71y1zz3mD8 X-Spamd-Bar: --- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=riseup.net header.s=squak header.b=bmCASOQ8; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=riseup.net; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of ralf-mardorf@riseup.net designates 198.252.153.129 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=ralf-mardorf@riseup.net X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.60 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_GOOD(0.00)[198.252.153.129:from]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[riseup.net:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[riseup.net,none]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[198.252.153.129:from]; ASN(0.00)[asn:16652, ipnet:198.252.153.0/24, country:US]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[198.252.153.129:from]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[riseup.net:s=squak]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; DWL_DNSWL_LOW(-1.00)[riseup.net:dkim]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[198.252.153.129:from:127.0.2.255]; MID_RHS_NOT_FQDN(0.50)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2021 17:22:48 -0000 On Wed, 14 Apr 2021 10:46:40 +0100, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: >overloaded servers In my experiences with different operating systems, servers (mirrors) might be overloaded or the ISP arbitrarily restricts download speed or something ISP or router related is broken. Sometimes restarting the router or if more hardware should be involved, such as a separated DSL-splitter, disconnecting and reconnecting all connections solves such issues. Usually just waiting a few minutes, hours or days is all that is needed. While I'm in favour of Linux over FreeBSD for my domains, I strongly discourage to migrate away from FreeBSD to another BSD or Linux, just because Internet download speed is fishy. I experiences this for Windows running in a VM and my iPads, from time to time, too. At least in Germany it's not unusual, that from time to time download speed is catastrophic. Take a look at websites where users report issues with ISPs. They sometimes provide graphs with reported disturbances by hours. Sometimes the last mile is just fishy. Usually I'm joking, "it's raining, so the last mile can't work. I should have known better"! I don't know how well they maintain local loops in your country. Here in the Ruhrgebiet they seem not to maintain those at all ;). And again, servers (mirrors) could be more or less down, too, even without DDoS attacks involved.