From owner-svn-src-all@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 26 02:22:25 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-src-all@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E3D3106566C; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 02:22:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yanefbsd@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f15.google.com (mail-fx0-f15.google.com [209.85.220.15]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 233878FC08; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 02:22:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yanefbsd@gmail.com) Received: by fxm8 with SMTP id 8so54212fxm.19 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 18:22:23 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=zdMu3Jd10M46Gwzh7yjr2lDC3Ki1ezggitoT5kB4wF4=; b=BpMEqq3KcqDt3QZJssySrK87rE0Sv+uEKANxePIoxVQpyjbdSZ5njAUWXml3hf4sqc e8Zu6gA0nslUXlgHaG4A0ktJ3z88jBvIafrw8homCVN9IZvCUtzvdRC9arDQWnxCEam7 3Fbg22RUz5jlTzGRWUWwaI+hVsVB5VvY7Uqx0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=m2mrRvacYuK+cVrdDpcm7xxiaW2F6Bq2u3yyUlqQwCKMJPDVSqOJwGk20TrhSGs1AS rZO/F7b5EiVHg8UNc7xcG27LOIXO1lFtYDjJW6cHx0RqTd6E8A83M/WQ2mYhV0LtAl3Q KO+6JTlIlzG3uIWt2oTQrIaFTM7/dTg2sMkW4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.181.156.12 with SMTP id i12mr1798732bko.140.1232936543035; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 18:22:23 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20090125.173558.1731231004.imp@bsdimp.com> References: <20090120012256.GB29741@dragon.NUXI.org> <20090119.191238.1389906774.imp@bsdimp.com> <20090125235322.GB25031@dragon.NUXI.org> <20090125.173558.1731231004.imp@bsdimp.com> Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 18:22:22 -0800 Message-ID: <7d6fde3d0901251822o41b128c0h5770ecbcf407e302@mail.gmail.com> From: Garrett Cooper To: "M. Warner Losh" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: svn-src-head@freebsd.org, svn-src-all@freebsd.org, src-committers@freebsd.org, obrien@freebsd.org Subject: Re: svn commit: r187332 - head/tools/regression/usr.bin/jot X-BeenThere: svn-src-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "SVN commit messages for the entire src tree \(except for " user" and " projects" \)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 02:22:25 -0000 On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 4:35 PM, M. Warner Losh wrote: > In message: <20090125235322.GB25031@dragon.NUXI.org> > "David O'Brien" writes: > : On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 07:12:38PM -0700, M. Warner Losh wrote: > : > I'm > : > glad JUNOS can build inside its own VM. Kudos. But given that the > : > world is much more than a tightly controlled development environment > : > at a well funded company, I think that we need to be more > : > accommodating. Especially for the embedded world. > : > : A minor correctly - JUNOS builds on STOCK FreeBSD running in a VM. > : JUNOS does not host its own build. > : > : How is building FreeBSD under stock FreeBSD affected by how well > : funded an entity is? > > Setting up and managing dozens of VMs for engineers without privs can > be problematic. We use an emulation environment at work and the vm > images are constantly getting corrupted. > > Warner But that's because it's QEMU -- QEMU is crap compared to VMware for x86 emulation still... QEMU/ppc is even worse, but it's the only ppc emulator that's freely available out there. -Garrett