From owner-freebsd-chat Sun Aug 17 21:56:37 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA25161 for chat-outgoing; Sun, 17 Aug 1997 21:56:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nico.telstra.net (nico.telstra.net [139.130.204.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA25156 for ; Sun, 17 Aug 1997 21:56:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (gregl1.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.136.133]) by nico.telstra.net (8.6.10/8.6.10) with ESMTP id OAA14486; Mon, 18 Aug 1997 14:55:57 +1000 Received: (grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.8.7/8.6.12) id OAA10414; Mon, 18 Aug 1997 14:25:55 +0930 (CST) Message-ID: <19970818142554.05331@lemis.com> Date: Mon, 18 Aug 1997 14:25:54 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: Sean Eric Fagan Cc: chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD background logo References: <199708180346.UAA26375@kithrup.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.81e In-Reply-To: <199708180346.UAA26375@kithrup.com>; from Sean Eric Fagan on Sun, Aug 17, 1997 at 08:46:45PM -0700 Organisation: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8250 Fax: +61-8-8388-8250 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, Aug 17, 1997 at 08:46:45PM -0700, Sean Eric Fagan wrote: > In article <19970818121348.56163.kithrup.freebsd.chat@lemis.com> Greg writes: >> Of course we can. The name is just copyrighted; you're still allowed >> to write it. > > The name is *trademarked*. I stand corrected. > It is a registered trademark of USL, which is > owned by SCO; X/Open, Ltd. (or is it just The Open Group now?) has exclusive > rights to license the trademark. > >> it reminds me a little of Kirk McKusick's >> limited edition Daemon T-shirt with the deflated death star on the end >> of the fork. > > True story: it used to be a deflated death star (aka AT&T's logo), until a > certain Dennis Ritchie complained, because AT&T was no longer the owner of > UNIX. Yup: > From: dmr@alice.att.com (Dennis Ritchie) > Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd > Subject: Re: BSD T-Shirts? > Message-ID: <26268@alice.att.com> > Date: 11 Aug 93 06:47:56 GMT > Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories, Murray Hill NJ > Lines: 17 > Status: RO > > Sigh. Does the new BSD T-Shirt really still have a deflated > deathstar with horizontal blue lines, or does it have the new one > with grey right-angled lines? I mean, look. Gimme a break. > > Judge Debevoise turned out not to care much that USL placed > BSDI in the imaginary town of Richmond Falls, Virginia, > and the new judge probably won't care much that the Regents say > that USL is still a majority-owned subsidiary of AT&T. > > But some people do care about these details, right? > > In return for a correctly-styled T-shirt and transportation > expenses, I'll trade you a stint as an expert witness > in either trial. No joke. > > > Dennis Ritchie I didn't keep Kirk's reply, but he complied. The next thing I have is (truncated): > Article: 32566 of comp.unix.bsd > Path: lemis!Germany.EU.net!mcsun!uknet!doc.ic.ac.uk!agate!toe.CS.Berkeley.EDU!mckusick > From: mckusick@toe.CS.Berkeley.EDU (Kirk McKusick) > Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd > Subject: Re: BSD T-Shirts? > Message-ID: <269cf4$398@agate.berkeley.edu> > Date: 4 Sep 93 06:26:44 GMT > References: <1993Aug16.145408.21797@Princeton.EDU> y.gnu.ai.mit.edu> > Organization: University of California, Berkeley > Lines: 71 > NNTP-Posting-Host: toe.cs.berkeley.edu > Status: RO > > The new 4.4BSD T-shirts are just now hot off the presses. The new > art has the BSD Daemon standing in Birkenstocks on top of the world > skewering a deathsquare on his trident. Under the picture is the > text ``Free the Berkeley 4.4!''. The available sizes are Youth > Small (YS, ages 6-9), Youth Medium (YM, ages 10-13), Youth Large > (YL, ages 14-16), Adult Small (S), Adult Medium (M), Adult Large > (L), Adult Extra Large (XL), and Adult Extra Extra Large (XXL). > The shirts are available only in ash, as that color is designed to > integrate with the six color halftone artwork. The shirts are > Hanes ``Beefy-T'' preshrunk 100% cotton; they are generously cut, > so after their first washing will fit similarly to a polyester > shirt of the same size. > (I have, somewhere, one of those original shirts.) Yes, so do I. Greg