From owner-freebsd-fs Tue Oct 10 12:28:51 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org Received: from smtp01.primenet.com (smtp01.primenet.com [206.165.6.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85F1D37B670 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 12:28:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by smtp01.primenet.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA21707; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 12:27:54 -0700 (MST) Received: from usr09.primenet.com(206.165.6.209) via SMTP by smtp01.primenet.com, id smtpdAAAmyaq_P; Tue Oct 10 12:27:27 2000 Received: (from tlambert@localhost) by usr09.primenet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA15822; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 12:28:06 -0700 (MST) From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <200010101928.MAA15822@usr09.primenet.com> Subject: Re: IBM Thinkpad suspending to 165 (was Re: Partition (Slice) tables) To: mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org (Michael Lucas) Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 19:28:05 +0000 (GMT) Cc: dcs@newsguy.com (Daniel C. Sobral), mbendiks@eunet.no (Marius Bendiksen), freebsd-fs@FreeBSD.ORG, grog@lemis.com (Greg Lehey) In-Reply-To: <20001010140034.A4550@blackhelicopters.org> from "Michael Lucas" at Oct 10, 2000 02:00:34 PM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-fs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > I'd like confirmation first, but I'm sure feeling like raising as much > > hell as possible. > > I definitely *need* to know the BIOS version or ThinkPad model version > that exhibits this behavior, confirmed by two different folks, before > putting out the "IBM hates BSD" article. > > When we have confirmation, it would be a good idea to let > advocacy@freebsd in on it. They're pretty good at raising hell when > warranted. > > This warrants not merely raising hell, but breaking out the black > candles, heavy robes, and sacrifical goat at some point. (Isn't there > a full moon during BSDcon?) You can't tell me that IBM didn't know > that FFS uses 165. The place this has been reported is with a ThinkPad A320, in a "dangerously dedicated" mode, without a DOS partititon table, and without a "suspend to disk" partitition. You can get the details from the advocacy list archives. In general, the "suspend to disk" function apparently looks for the first non-DOS, non-Extended, non-Linux partition, and will stomp its suspend image there. So the upshot is "if you do something other than an industry standard DOS Partitition table on a ThinkPad A320, BIOS version indeterminate, AND you fail to reserve space for the ``suspend to disk'' function prior to the FreeBSD partitition, then it will happily stomp the FreeBSD partitition". Or in simpler terms, "What part of ``_dangerously_ dedicated'' did you not understand?". > Is there a master list of file system types anywhere? There are several. FreeBSD is on most of them. Probably, Linux used to have the same problem, until they hacked their BIOS to recognize both DOS and Linux, instead of just DOS (and knowing IBM, OS/2). Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-fs" in the body of the message