From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 6 00:50:19 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3848D16A4CE for ; Sun, 6 Feb 2005 00:50:19 +0000 (GMT) Received: from cheyenne.wixb.com (cheyenne.wixb.com [65.43.82.170]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A589643D45 for ; Sun, 6 Feb 2005 00:50:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jbronson@wixb.com) Message-Id: <6.2.1.2.2.20050205184507.0221ce40@cheyenne.wixb.com> Date: Sat, 05 Feb 2005 18:50:18 -0600 To: "Donald J. O'Neill" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: "J.D. Bronson" In-Reply-To: <200502051841.51520.donaldj1066@fastmail.fm> References: <6.2.1.2.2.20050205170724.00c56c78@cheyenne.wixb.com> <42055475.5020807@cis.strath.ac.uk> <6.2.1.2.2.20050205172020.00c5db48@cheyenne.wixb.com> <200502051841.51520.donaldj1066@fastmail.fm> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed cc: Chris Hodgins Subject: Re: repost of boot issue on 5.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Feb 2005 00:50:19 -0000 At 06:41 PM 2/5/2005, Donald J. O'Neill wrote: >On Saturday 05 February 2005 05:20 pm, J.D. Bronson wrote: > > At 05:19 PM 2/5/2005, Chris Hodgins wrote: > > >J.D. Bronson wrote: > > >>No one responded - I am sure someone out there knows what the deal > > >> is here... I did a full install from CDROM on a fresh new clean > > >> drive. Freebsd is the ONLY OS on the drive. And i used the entire > > >> drive. I selected the standard boot manager (not the freebsd > > >> one)... > >Hi J.D. > >As I read what you've said above, it appears that the problem is that >you don't have a boot manager installed on the hard drive. The manual >says that for what you have - one hard drive, only FreeBSD - you don't >need the FreeBSD boot manager. However, if you did have the FreeBSD >boot manager installed, it would boot up the way you want. Mine does. > > > > >> and all the install went fine. This is what I see when I > > >> reboot after install: > > >>FreeBSD/i386 BOOT > > >>Default: 0:ad(0,a)/boot/loader > > >>boot: > > >> > > >>..and it JUST SITS there. If I hit the return key, it will boot up > > >> into the beastie menu and boot fine. How can I get this machine to > > >> boot up on its OWN? > >On the other hand, how long are you waiting before becoming impatient >and hitting return? > > > >>The boot startup sequence on the machine is HARD DRIVE THEN CDROM. > > >>This is the only hard drive in the system. > > >>Please if anyone knows how to fix this?? - A fresh install with a > > >> fresh drive....and still no luck. > > > > > >This might give you a few ideas. :) > > >http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/boot-block > > >s.html#BOOT-BOOT1 > > > > > >Chris > > > > I tried this (even tho a full install it SHOULD not be needed) and I > > still get the same darn thing. I am really disappointed as I dont > > know why its hanging. > >When you first set it up, did you make the drive bootable, then select >no boot manager? > >-- >Donald J. O'Neill >donaldj1066@fastmail.fm > >I'm not totally useless, >I can be used as a bad example. I just created a PR on this issue. It has to do with whether or not the 2nd IDE channel is enabled -or- if there is a drive on it. When I did the install - I selected the MIDDLE option "Install a standard MBR" as I usually do. This is really weird. I never have seen this before. Maybe someone else has. Here is the description of my PR: Using 5.3 release is when I 1st noticed this. CVSup to 5.3-STABLE does not fix this trouble. If both IDE channels are enabled and they are all set to AUTO/AUTO for master/slave and there is no drive (yet) installed to IDE channel2, the machine hangs at boot. If I install a drive to IDE channel2, the machine boots. If I disable IDE channel2, the machine will boot. When it hangs, all I see on the console is: FreeBSD/i386 BOOT Default: 0:ad(0,a)/boot/loader boot: ...if I hit at this point, the beastie menu comes up. The machine will NOT boot on it's own. -- J.D. Bronson Aurora Health Care // Information Services // Milwaukee, WI USA Office: 414.978.8282 // Email: jd@aurora.org // Pager: 414.314.8282 Reach me at AIM:lonebanditusa //