Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 12:07:45 -0700 From: John-Mark Gurney <gurney_j@resnet.uoregon.edu> To: "Constantine A. Murenin" <cnst@FreeBSD.org> Cc: Rui Paulo <rpaulo@fnop.net>, Poul-Henning Kamp <phk@phk.freebsd.dk>, Robert Watson <rwatson@FreeBSD.org>, Shteryana Shopova <syrinx@FreeBSD.org>, freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Porting OpenBSD's sysctl hw.sensors framework to FreeBSD Message-ID: <20070711190745.GI1221@funkthat.com> In-Reply-To: <469420B9.20401@FreeBSD.org> References: <53705.1184107078@critter.freebsd.dk> <469420B9.20401@FreeBSD.org>
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Constantine A. Murenin wrote this message on Tue, Jul 10, 2007 at 20:13 -0400: > If you want to have no such framework that could potentially diagnose or > predict system failure, it's your choice, and I'm not going to argue > against it. However, there are many people who desire to have this > feature in an operating system, and these people include FreeBSD users > and developers. No one is saying that we don't want a framekwork to provide this information... We want to put the framework in the proper place that will be the most maintainable, testable and extensible location possible: userland... A single bug in the kernel framework and associated drivers could take the entire system down... The worse a userland app can do is core dump... Having recently written an HDTV driver... It was a god-send to have the tuner logic and related items in userland, and only use the kernel part as a bit mover.. It made testing very quick, and will enable people to develope additional tuners w/o having to go through crashing their machine as they load/unload drivers that contain bugs.. -- John-Mark Gurney Voice: +1 415 225 5579 "All that I will do, has been done, All that I have, has not."
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