From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 10 05:51:27 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F32E16A4CE for ; Thu, 10 Feb 2005 05:51:27 +0000 (GMT) Received: from out009.verizon.net (out009pub.verizon.net [206.46.170.131]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86D5443D41 for ; Thu, 10 Feb 2005 05:51:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from leblanc@keyslapper.org) Received: from keyslapper.org ([68.163.189.143]) by out009.verizon.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.06 201-253-122-130-106-20030910) with ESMTP id <20050210055125.XXDJ4172.out009.verizon.net@keyslapper.org> for ; Wed, 9 Feb 2005 23:51:25 -0600 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by keyslapper.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 001B511E41 for ; Thu, 10 Feb 2005 00:51:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from keyslapper.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (keyslapper.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 09535-01 for ; Thu, 10 Feb 2005 00:51:17 -0500 (EST) Received: by keyslapper.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 5C8A111E11; Thu, 10 Feb 2005 00:51:17 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 00:51:17 -0500 From: Louis LeBlanc To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050210055117.GA96699@keyslapper.net> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20050209215358.BBE0643D31@mx1.FreeBSD.org> <420A86FC.1090207@tvog.net> <20050209220204.A07EB43D2F@mx1.FreeBSD.org> <20050209221045.GA18867@fw.farid-hajji.net> <20050209225030.GH18088@keyslapper.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="45Z9DzgjV8m4Oswq" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-PGP-Key: http://www.keyslapper.net/~leblanc/leblanc-at-keyslapper-net.asc User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.7i X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at keyslapper.net X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH at out009.verizon.net from [68.163.189.143] at Wed, 9 Feb 2005 23:51:25 -0600 Subject: Re: Please don't change Beastie to another crap logo such as NetBSD!!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 05:51:27 -0000 --45Z9DzgjV8m4Oswq Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 02/09/05 09:45 PM, Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC sat at the `puter and typ= ed: >=20 > On Feb 9, 2005, at 3:50 PM, Louis LeBlanc wrote: >=20 > > And in the past, I've only ever worn or > > used logos if they were for the Red Sox, the Patriots (and even those > > sparingly), or a free shirt. Hey, free is free, right? >=20 > What, no Celtics? Not much of a hoop fan :| > I will admit to having bought lots of Apple shirts and a Celtics shirt.= =20 > The rest of my logos shirts are of the free sort I pick up at=20 > conferences and from vendors :-) I snatch 'em at work when the penguin boxes come in :) > As regards the thread topic. >=20 > I think the poster who mentioned that a logo and a mascot are not=20 > necessarily the same. That is a valid point. I think it would be bad=20 > if "Beastie" were to disappear. But there is an advantage to having a=20 > more "business like" logo in addition to the mascot for those times=20 > when such things as "Beastie" might be imprudent. Yes, but business is why Microsoft Windows (*) sucks old rocks. Microsoft is in business to make money, not better software. I was always under the impression that while the FreeBSD foundation was "in business" to promote FreeBSD, the chief focus of the core team has always been a better OS. Keeping Beastie is a statement of sorts that the FreeBSD team is NOT interested in business, just their work. Once upon a time, a geek could get by with their idiosyncrasies because they were obviously not interested in the power points that the businessmen and politicians wanted. They were only interested in their gadgetry, software, and whatever cool new technology came along. Now, one by one, everyone's worried about "business like" images, logos, and whatnot. You may be right, but I still strongly (but respectfully) disagree. Lou --=20 Louis LeBlanc FreeBSD-at-keyslapper-DOT-net Fully Funded Hobbyist, KeySlapper Extrordinaire :) Please send off-list email to: leblanc at keyslapper d.t net Key fingerprint =3D C5E7 4762 F071 CE3B ED51 4FB8 AF85 A2FE 80C8 D9A2 The Law of the Letter: The best way to inspire fresh thoughts is to seal the envelope. --45Z9DzgjV8m4Oswq Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCCvZVr4Wi/oDI2aIRAqLoAJ9QUjSvDDWkhGtf8Itz7tGkZG+KWgCgjWyZ Kb3+MhPyZwd/q/ka1RXVzno= =Xf0q -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --45Z9DzgjV8m4Oswq--