From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 5 09:48:14 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA9DD16A41F for ; Sat, 5 Nov 2005 09:48:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.web-strider.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6098C43D45 for ; Sat, 5 Nov 2005 09:48:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id jA59p4b63617; Sat, 5 Nov 2005 01:51:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Jim Pazarena" , Date: Sat, 5 Nov 2005 01:48:11 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <436A8E90.20908@ccstores.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1506 Importance: Normal Cc: Subject: RE: New Logo X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2005 09:48:15 -0000 Yes, the decision can be reversed. Simply do not use the new logo on anything you produce for FreeBSD, such as CDROM copies for customer server installs, web pages you may create that discuss FreeBSD, graphic images you might use as backgrounds, computer presentations, etc. Do not purchase or spend money on any commercial FreeBSD product that uses the new logo, such as CDROM pressings, books, etc. and make sure to let the producers of the items know why. Be aware that book authors have considerable say in the artwork that goes on book covers, even if they do not create it, and a book publisher will do anything to avoid pissing people off - with the controversy over Beastie vs. the new logo, any book publisher and/or author would most likely avoid using both images on their book covers at this point. (Note the covers of many of the current FreeBSD books) Do not link to webpages that use the new logo. Hold the core team to their promise that the new logo will not supplant Beastie, which means that Beastie imagery will still be present on the FreeBSD website on some pages. If that is done the new logo will remain an artifact of the index page on the FreeBSD website. Such "voting with the feet" has been used by the user base in the past with FreeBSD very successfully. That is why, for example, there is no longer a Seagate ST01 scsi adapter card driver in FreeBSD, or a floppy controller tape drive driver. The userbase didn't want them. By contrast when the core team tried killing the Adaptec 1520/1510 driver the userbase howled and core eventually put forth the effort to rewrite it for cam. (and still is present to this day) Ted >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Jim Pazarena >Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2005 2:26 PM >To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >Subject: New Logo > > >after reading the original competition posting, it seems that it was >orchestrated by the "core" @ freebsd > >it would be interesting to learn the total # of "core" members, and how >the vote went, yay and nay, and whether, it at all, the "core" is >hearing the message which seems to be emanating from the "non-core".. > >IOW, can the decision be reversed? is it being considered? if not, it's >all moot. > >regards, >Jim >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to >"freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > >-- >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG Free Edition. >Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.12.8/161 - Release Date: >11/3/2005 >