From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 23 01:13:10 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FF0616A4BF for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 01:13:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-da-5.dns-solutions.net (mail-da-5.dns-solutions.net [69.12.118.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EC77943FFD for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 01:13:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from michael@vcommunities.net) Received: (qmail 6146 invoked from network); 23 Sep 2003 08:13:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO tabby) (mvondung@vcommunities.net@62.226.55.61) by mail-da-5.dns-solutions.net - 62.226.55.61 with SMTP; 23 Sep 2003 08:13:41 -0000 From: "Michael Vondung" To: "'Pat Lashley'" , , Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 10:12:55 +0200 Message-ID: <00ab01c381aa$846809a0$0200a8c0@tabby> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4510 In-Reply-To: <3729783520.1064277157@mccaffrey.phoenix.volant.org> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Subject: RE: ports on a CD X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 08:13:10 -0000 > Sounds like a business opportunity. Make and sell > CD sets with the 'missing' ports. Every couple of > months, a new snapshot of the entire ports tree with > all of the legally-CD-able distfiles; for people who > don't have the (cheap) bandwidth to stay up to date > with cvsup... I believe that is what Tadimeti originally meant. If you get the seven Debian CDs, you can install and use a wide variety of different = software, even if you have no or a slow/expensive connection to the 'net. With = FreeBSD you get some packages, but if you want or need more than the minimum software, you depend on an online connection. If the same person also = has a slow machine, then FreeBSD is not really suited for them. This has actually been one of my problems. I'm stuck in an area where = the fastest connection speed is ISDN, and I pay for that by the minute (an average of fifty cents an hour, for one channel). Setting up a = workstation with a decent selection of software, was more costly for me than if I = had done the same with Debian. To me, this was a perfectly acceptable investment, but I can see why it would turn people off who haven't yet decided to go with FreeBSD and instead "shop for an OS" (it makes little difference if you purchase two or seven CDs if you get them for one or = two dollars a piece). M.