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Date:      Sun, 4 Oct 1998 02:16:15 +0000 (GMT)
From:      Terry Lambert <tlambert@primenet.com>
To:        bde@zeta.org.au (Bruce Evans)
Cc:        bde@zeta.org.au, tlambert@primenet.com, Don.Lewis@tsc.tdk.com, freebsd-fs@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG, gibbs@plutotech.com
Subject:   Re: filesystem safety and SCSI disk write caching
Message-ID:  <199810040216.TAA19402@usr06.primenet.com>
In-Reply-To: <199810040137.LAA14507@godzilla.zeta.org.au> from "Bruce Evans" at Oct 4, 98 11:37:22 am

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> >> I think it can be interpreted as showing that the performance hit is
> >> very large.  `make world' is mostly cpu-bound, and most of it's i/o's
> >> are reads (60% here).  I guess it spends less than 5 minutes of its time
> >> writing (27000 block output operations here).  An increase of 5 minutes
> >> is very large.
> >
> >This is without "noatime".
> 
> Actually, 27000 is with "noatime" on all file systems, and with "async"
> on all file systems that were written to by my `make world' (/tmp, /var/tmp,
> MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX = /c/obj and DESTDIR = /c/root).

Even better.

We are talking an increase of one hour, 30, to one hour, 35 in trade
for soft update without atime and without SCSI write caching enabled.

This is from 90 to 95 minutes, or 95/90 = 1.0555.

This is a difference of 5.6% to go from zero reliability to 100%
reliability, barring hardware failure.

In my book, this is overhead *well spent*.


I can post (once again) the results of a Novell study on server usage
patterns.  The 30,000 foot view for a typical server breaks down to:

	75%	reads
	15%	writes
	8%	directory search operations
	2%	other


					Terry Lambert
					terry@lambert.org
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