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Date:      Mon, 24 Oct 2016 19:11:31 +0100
From:      FreeBSD Core Secretary <core-secretary@FreeBSD.org>
To:        freebsd-ports@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: misc/jive deleted
Message-ID:  <a99a2d1e-04d5-3d07-8f16-56013ea5af90@FreeBSD.org>
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Subject: Re: misc/jive deleted
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On 24/10/2016 17:11, Mikhail T. wrote:

> Now that we are done with the hairsplitting, and I shall put the port
> back as soon as I have a moment -- unless someone else beats me to it.
>=20
> I'd also like to ask portmgr@ to avoid taking such steps in the future
> -- inventing a policy in order to immediately act on it. Though we do
> not have a strict separation of powers, portmgr@ is primarily an
> executive body -- and should defer "lawmaking" to the wider audience of=

> committers, however cantankerous we may be.
>=20
> Portmgr's mandate is to ensure, ports continue to build smoothly despit=
e
> changes to the OS and other ports. Policing the contents is a
> regrettable overreach (a.k.a. "powergrab").

Hi, Mikhail and everyone else involved here,

The misc/jive port was actually removed at the request of core@.  Please
can you raise your concerns with core privately, rather than letting
this thread get out of hand (as it seems likely to do) in public.

	Cheers,

	Matthew, with hat core-secretary.




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