From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 28 18:17:08 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7ED69106566B for ; Sat, 28 May 2011 18:17:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from julian@freebsd.org) Received: from vps1.elischer.org (vps1.elischer.org [204.109.63.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37F218FC0C for ; Sat, 28 May 2011 18:17:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from julian-mac.elischer.org (home-nat.elischer.org [67.100.89.137]) (authenticated bits=0) by vps1.elischer.org (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p4SIH4wQ069257 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sat, 28 May 2011 11:17:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from julian@freebsd.org) Message-ID: <4DE13C28.8070702@freebsd.org> Date: Sat, 28 May 2011 11:17:12 -0700 From: Julian Elischer User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X 10.4; en-US; rv:1.9.2.17) Gecko/20110414 Thunderbird/3.1.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: utisoft@gmail.com References: <20110527.124553.718.1@DEV> <20110527134754.GA94769@freebsd.org> <20110527.164723.750.2@DEV> <496B0C04-7777-458D-A116-27944A4006BB@bsdimp.com> <4DE0BA7C.8080707@freebsd.org> <4DE13A8D.8030101@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <4DE13A8D.8030101@freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: rank1seeker@gmail.com, hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Active slice, only for a next boot X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 28 May 2011 18:17:08 -0000 On 5/28/11 11:10 AM, Julian Elischer wrote: > On 5/28/11 4:06 AM, Chris Rees wrote: >> >> >> On 28 May 2011 10:04, "Julian Elischer" > > wrote: >> > >> > On 5/27/11 11:34 AM, Warner Losh wrote: >> >> >> >> On May 27, 2011, at 10:47 AM, rank1seeker@gmail.com >> wrote: >> >> >> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >> >>> From: Alexander Best> > >> >>> To: rank1seeker@gmail.com >> >>> Cc: hackers@freebsd.org >> >>> Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 13:47:54 +0000 >> >>> Subject: Re: Active slice, only for a next boot >> >>> >> >>>> On Fri May 27 11, rank1seeker@gmail.com >> wrote: >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Idea is ... >> >>>>> I have i.e; 3 slices, of which first is active. >> >>>>> Now I wana set slice 2 active, but only for a one/next boot. >> >>>>> Once slice 2 is booted and system is shutdown or rebooted, >> once again, >> >>> >> >>> first slice is active and booted, without user's intervention. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Is this possible or should be implemented? >> > >> > >> > nextboot(8) USED to do this before it was broken by someone to >> "look into the filesystem" >> > for it's next boot hint which is obviously broken if you are >> trying to get to another filesystem >> > because the main one is broken. >> > >> >> Doesn't sound that useful to me- I think of the main use for >> nextboot being to try new kernels on a one-time basis. If you're >> rescuing a broken filesystem surely it's better to just set another >> slice active? >> > > try using it on an appliance > > it has to recover on its own from a complete filesystem screwup. i.e. a 100% recovery with NO HUMAN INTERVENTION. even in the case of a dead/dieing drive. (requires that bios has drive boot order feature) I will add that this functionality is so useful that several companies still maintain the old bootblocks internally (e.g. cisco) The new functionality was introduced without an consultation and the old functionality just 'lost'. Which was just bad design and project management.. > >> Chris >> > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-hackers-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >