From owner-freebsd-hardware Sun Jan 20 22: 3: 4 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from Mail6.mgfairfax.rr.com (fe6.southeast.rr.com [24.93.67.53]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6308737B41B for ; Sun, 20 Jan 2002 22:02:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from ys97y ([66.61.49.164]) by Mail6.mgfairfax.rr.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.687.68); Mon, 21 Jan 2002 01:02:44 -0500 Message-ID: <018a01c1a25a$c622a480$6401a8c0@yungwoongmoon.goh> From: "Sung-Shik Yang" To: "Kristian Hansen" Cc: References: <006101c1a1a2$fa5171e0$6401a8c0@yungwoongmoon.goh> <001701c1a199$739ad640$0601a8c0@DELL01> Subject: Re: cdrom Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2002 01:05:29 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0187_01C1A217.B7D631A0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0187_01C1A217.B7D631A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks for your tips Kristian. I think I should do some kind of remote installation. FTP installation = maybe the choice. But, this machine only has modem. I have another = machine that has Linux on it. Can I use PLIP to do the job? Since this = machine I want to install FreeBSD on is pretty old machine, I am not = sure if there are any NICs that fit to it. Gosh, I need to set the = Linux machine first to explore the option of PLIP. Once I succeed in FreeBSD installation, recognizing the CDROM drive is = going to be the next challenge. Long way to go. Is there any advice on = my possible options? Can I set up the Linux machine as the FTP server = to get the FreeBSD source? Pentium I (233MHz) Pentium I (75MHz) 64MB RAM 40MB RAM NIC No NIC Modem (56K) Modem (56K) Serial/Parallel ports Serial/Parallel ports I also have a router which connects the Linux machine and another = machine running Win98 - I don't regard this machine as an option to use, = though. Sung-Shik Yang =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Make what is impossible possible. Man can die only once, not twice. - Special Warfare Command Do what a man can do,=20 then wait for heaven's will. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Kristian Hansen=20 To: Sung-Shik Yang=20 Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org=20 Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2002 2:01 AM Subject: Re: cdrom Hi, This CD-ROm drive you're using is _not_ an IDE drive, hence it does = not show in the BIOS. The drive is likely to be an OEM Matshushita 2x speed drive. It uses a = proprietary connection, which looks like an IDE interface. There is a driver for FreeBSD for this device (matcd), but it is not = in the generic kernel.=20 You have two optios for how to install: 1) Make a custom kernel, including the matcd driver and create your = own boot floppy. You should then be able to proceed with the install. = You cannot tell the installer to install from a cd drive at this stage, = rather you should tell the installer to use a disk partition. As far as = I remember, this requires you to mount the cd at some mount point. 2) Install FreeBSD via FTP, and then create a custom kernel including = the matcd driver. If you have a fast and stable connection to the = internet, this is the option I'll recommend you use. Regards Kristian Hansen ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Sung-Shik Yang=20 To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org=20 Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2002 12:09 PM Subject: cdrom Hi everyone, I was trying to install FreeBSD 4.4 on an old Pentium machine from = CDROM, but it didn't even detect the CDROM. The following is the spec. Pentium 1 (75MHz), 40MB RAM Separate I/O controller card (Winbond chip, SMC chip), which = connects to an HDD and an FDD. One FDD, One HDD (Pri. IDE Master). SoundBlaster 16 card. CDROM manufactured by Creative Labs Inc., which made the sound card = above. Strange thing is, the BIOS wouldn't define the CDROM. There's 4 IDE = sections (Pri. master/slave, Sec. master/slave), but they are specificly = for HDD configuration with cyl/head/sec stuff. If I just put = "user"(-defined) option there and make the cyl/head/sec fields as 0, = then the setup freezes even before memory checking step. So, I have to = leave all three IDE settings as "none" at least to boot normally. The sound card has two ports. The indicator says one of them is = "IDE interface" and the other is "SoundBlaster Pro / Panasonic CDROM" or = something. Currently the CDROM cable is connected to the "IDE = interface" port of the sound card. The jumper at the back of the CDROM = drive is set as "slave". So, I guess it signifies that the CDROM should = be treated as primary slave IDE device, while the BIOS doesn't even know = its presence. Even more strange, Running Windows98, CDROM is detected = somehow and runs fine. Any ideas or advices? Sung-Shik Yang = =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Make what is impossible possible. Man can die only once, not twice. - Special Warfare Command Do what a man can do,=20 then wait for heaven's will. = =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D ------=_NextPart_000_0187_01C1A217.B7D631A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thanks for your tips = Kristian.
 
I think I should do = some kind of=20 remote installation.  FTP installation maybe the choice.  But, = this=20 machine only has modem.  I have another machine that has Linux on = it. =20 Can I use PLIP to do the job?  Since this machine I want to = install=20 FreeBSD on is pretty old machine, I am not sure if there are any NICs = that fit=20 to it.  Gosh, I need to set the Linux machine first to explore the = option=20 of PLIP.
 
Once I succeed in FreeBSD = installation,=20 recognizing the CDROM drive is going to be the next challenge.  = Long way to=20 go.  Is there any advice on my possible options?  Can I set=20 up the Linux machine as the FTP server to get the FreeBSD=20 source?
 
 
<Machine A=20 (Linux)>       <Machine B (to = install=20 FreeBSD)>
Pentium I=20 (233MHz)        Pentium I=20 (75MHz)
64MB=20 RAM           &nbs= p;     =20 40MB RAM
NIC          &= nbsp;           =20 No NIC
Modem (56K)        =        Modem=20 (56K)
Serial/Parallel=20 ports     Serial/Parallel ports
 
 
I also have a router which = connects the=20 Linux machine and another machine running Win98 - I don't regard = this=20 machine as an option to use, though.
 
 
 
Sung-Shik = Yang
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
Make what is=20 impossible possible.
Man can die only once, not=20 twice.
        - Special Warfare=20 Command
Do what a man can do,
   then wait for heaven's = will.
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Kristian Hansen =
Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2002 = 2:01=20 AM
Subject: Re: cdrom

Hi,
 
This CD-ROm drive you're using is = _not_ an IDE=20 drive, hence it does not show in the BIOS.
The drive is likely to be an OEM = Matshushita 2x=20 speed drive. It uses a proprietary connection, which looks like an IDE = interface.
 
There is a driver for FreeBSD for = this device=20 (matcd), but it is not in the generic kernel.
You have two optios for how to=20 install:
1) Make a custom kernel, including = the matcd=20 driver and create your own boot floppy. You should then be able to = proceed=20 with the install. You cannot tell the installer to install from a cd = drive at=20 this stage, rather you should tell the installer to use a disk = partition. As=20 far as I remember, this requires you to mount the cd at some mount=20 point.
 
2) Install FreeBSD via FTP, and then = create a=20 custom kernel including the matcd driver. If you have a fast and = stable=20 connection to the internet, this is the option I'll recommend you=20 use.
 
Regards
 
Kristian Hansen
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Sung-Shik=20 Yang
To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org= =20
Sent: Sunday, January 20, = 2002 12:09=20 PM
Subject: cdrom

Hi everyone,
 
I was trying to install = FreeBSD 4.4 on=20 an old Pentium machine from CDROM, but it didn't even detect the=20 CDROM.  The following is the spec.
 
Pentium 1 (75MHz), 40MB=20 RAM
Separate I/O controller = card (Winbond=20 chip, SMC chip), which connects to an HDD and=20 an FDD.
One FDD, One HDD (Pri. IDE=20 Master).
SoundBlaster 16 = card.
CDROM manufactured by = Creative Labs=20 Inc., which made the sound card above.
 
Strange thing is, the BIOS = wouldn't=20 define the CDROM.  There's 4 IDE sections (Pri. master/slave, = Sec.=20 master/slave), but they are specificly for HDD configuration with=20 cyl/head/sec stuff.  If I just put "user"(-defined) option = there and=20 make the cyl/head/sec fields as 0, then the setup freezes even = before memory=20 checking step.  So, I have to leave all three IDE settings as = "none" at=20 least to boot normally.
 
The sound card has two = ports.  The=20 indicator says one of them is "IDE interface" and the other is = "SoundBlaster=20 Pro / Panasonic CDROM" or something.  Currently the CDROM = cable is=20 connected to the "IDE interface" port of the sound = card.  The=20 jumper at the back of the CDROM drive is set as "slave".  So, I = guess=20 it signifies that the CDROM should be treated = as primary slave IDE=20 device, while the BIOS doesn't even know its presence.  = Even more=20 strange, Running Windows98, CDROM is detected somehow and runs=20 fine.
 
Any ideas or = advices?
 
 
Sung-Shik=20 = Yang
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
Make what is impossible=20 possible.
Man can die only once, not=20 twice.
        - Special = Warfare=20 Command
Do what a man can do,
   then wait for = heaven's=20 = will.
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
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