From owner-freebsd-ports Mon Dec 10 7: 5: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from fep6.cogeco.net (smtp.cogeco.net [216.221.81.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7137E37B41B; Mon, 10 Dec 2001 07:05:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from earth.upton.net (d141-18-230.home.cgocable.net [24.141.18.230]) by fep6.cogeco.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 224762EE7; Mon, 10 Dec 2001 10:05:04 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2001 10:05:03 -0500 From: Paul Murphy To: "David O'Brien" Cc: steve@FreeBSD.ORG, lioux@FreeBSD.ORG, portmgr@FreeBSD.ORG, ports@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: GNOME/KDE issue with disc1 Message-Id: <20011210100503.70a33f5d.pnmurphy@cogeco.ca> In-Reply-To: <20011209181503.A1921@dragon.nuxi.com> References: <20011207181333.A97777@dragon.nuxi.com> <20011209012306.A96687@dragon.nuxi.com> <20011209183512.1467.qmail@exxodus.fedaykin.here> <20011209142050.M46667@bsd.havk.org> <20011209151048.B92399@dragon.nuxi.com> <20011209192745.3597e2dc.pnmurphy@cogeco.ca> <20011209181503.A1921@dragon.nuxi.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.6.5claws8 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386--freebsd4.4) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, 9 Dec 2001 18:15:03 -0800 "David O'Brien" wrote: > On Sun, Dec 09, 2001 at 07:27:45PM -0500, Paul Murphy wrote: > > Personally I would think disc1 should take a "lets get up and running" > > attitude, and contain a "simpler" desktop. KDE and GNOME are way too > > bloated for a _basic_ install. > > I still use the same desktop and window manager I have for the past 8 > years (which means not GNOME or KDE) so I'm not giving favors to either I DO use KDE, but it was not the _first_ desktop I installed (AfterStep was). > -- but we cannot ignore that these are the two most popular desktops > today. W/o the added functionality those two give over my own CTWM, we > cannot attract and please those of the M$ generation. > If people buy(?) a four disc set I'm sure they would realise that not everything could go on the #1 disc. [ They might even feel cheated if all they needed was one disk, but they had to pay for four] > Maybe I should be saying it simpler -- that getting KDE and GNOME > installed from get go *is* a basic install today. > The label on my disc one says "Insallation Boot, ESSENTIAL Packages, XFree86" [emphasis mine]. I would think this contained things like Bash, pine, etc - all console apps. The only reason I would expect ANY X11 apps is because XFree86 is on the disc, and I would only expect to find enough to get X11 running. Pesonally I wouldn't even put XFree86 on disc one but I realise it might be difficult to fill the disc space otherwise. > -- > -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) > -- I call it "No-Pants Wonderday," but it turns out the police just call it "Thursday." Go figure. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-ports" in the body of the message