From owner-freebsd-chat Wed Oct 15 22:41:08 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id WAA06264 for chat-outgoing; Wed, 15 Oct 1997 22:41:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-chat) Received: from obie.softweyr.ml.org ([199.104.124.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id WAA06256 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 1997 22:41:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wes@xmission.com) Received: (from wes@localhost) by obie.softweyr.ml.org (8.7.5/8.6.12) id XAA12358; Wed, 15 Oct 1997 23:48:07 -0600 (MDT) Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 23:48:07 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199710160548.XAA12358@obie.softweyr.ml.org> From: Wes Peters To: Eivind Eklund CC: chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: C2 Trusted FreeBSD? In-Reply-To: <199710141827.UAA16499@bitbox.follo.net> References: <199710140424.XAA17794@nospam.hiwaay.net> <199710141240.FAA01458@usr02.primenet.com> <199710141827.UAA16499@bitbox.follo.net> Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Eivind Eklund writes: > According to my recent reading (probably in Wired) they wanted to drop > that boring 'court order' part and go with only needing a subpoena... In the U.S., a subpoena is a court order. In the case of the FBI, it would have to be signed by a Federal Judge with jurisdiction over the case. On the other hand, I'm led to believe (by remote social acquaintances who are FBI agents) that Federal Judges give FBI agents signed blank subpoenas and search warrants like candy. -- "Where am I, and what am I doing in this handbasket?" Wes Peters Softweyr LLC http://www.xmission.com/~softweyr softweyr@xmission.com