From owner-freebsd-security Thu Sep 30 9:43:17 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-security@freebsd.org Received: from phoenix.calderasystems.com (phoenix.calderasystems.com [207.179.18.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B029715A65 for ; Thu, 30 Sep 1999 09:42:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from drdavis@calderasystems.com) Received: from calderasystems.com (drdavis@buddha.calderasystems.com [207.179.18.42]) by phoenix.calderasystems.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA22780 for ; Thu, 30 Sep 1999 10:42:49 -0600 Message-ID: <37F393A0.14768E61@calderasystems.com> Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 10:45:20 -0600 From: "Darren R. Davis" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61C-CCK-MCD Caldera Systems OpenLinux [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.10 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Help me win the MS-Proxy/ipfw war References: <000F7337.C21325@dtt.co.za> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------36D628A9BFFCC9C532D7ED25" Sender: owner-freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------36D628A9BFFCC9C532D7ED25 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To continue the off topic... I built up a firewall using and old Toshiba Notebook that I pulled out the hard drive and replaced with a Sandisk Flash drive (http://www.sandisk.com/oem/1.8drive.htm). I used two 3c589 PCCards and FreeBSD. It should last for a long time. My next goal is to set it up with PicoBSD. Darren Rudi Opperman wrote: > Hi > > A little bit off topic but... > > I understand the benefits of diskless operations - but are floppies/stiffies > such a good idea? Isn't their mtf worse than hdd? Would booting off some other > type of media (zip /cd / 120mbfloppy), configured readonly, be better? > > bye > rudi > > > I wouldn't run a diskless firewall unless I had provisions for remote > > logging. And in any case, disks are so cheap nowadays - the added > > flexibility is well worth the added cost. > > I sell PicoBSD-based NAT systems for mostly home/SOHO DSL/cablemodem > users. The benefit of no hard drive is there's no hard drive to fail, and > even the floppy only has to work at boot time. Makes the units much > quieter too. > > - Mike > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Received: from internat.freebsd.org ([146.64.8.4]) by mailgate.dtt.co.za with > SMTP > (IMA Internet Exchange 3.13) id 000F65D8; Wed, 29 Sep 1999 02:57:53 +0200 > Received: from hub.freebsd.org (hub.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.18]) > by internat.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA13697; > Wed, 29 Sep 1999 03:01:20 +0200 (SAST) > (envelope-from owner-freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG) > Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 538) > id EAD0C1582B; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 18:00:29 -0700 (PDT) > Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) > by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP > id ADF291CD474; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 18:00:29 -0700 (PDT) > (envelope-from owner-freebsd-security) > Received: by hub.freebsd.org (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 28 Sep 1999 18:00:29 > -0700 > Delivered-To: freebsd-security@freebsd.org > Received: from phluffy.fks.bt (mail.amc-inc.com [156.46.122.130]) > by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0AD315838 > for ; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 18:00:17 -0700 (PDT) > (envelope-from myke@ees.com) > Received: from localhost (myke@localhost) > by phluffy.fks.bt (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA00721; > Tue, 28 Sep 1999 12:45:13 -0500 (CDT) > (envelope-from myke@ees.com) > X-Authentication-Warning: phluffy.fks.bt: myke owned process doing -bs > Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 12:45:12 -0500 (CDT) > From: Mike Holling > X-Sender: myke@phluffy.fks.bt > To: Dag-Erling Smorgrav > Cc: "f.johan.beisser" , > "Scott I. Remick" , > freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Re: Help me win the MS-Proxy/ipfw war > In-Reply-To: > Message-ID: > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > Sender: owner-freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG > X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Precedence: bulk --------------36D628A9BFFCC9C532D7ED25 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="drdavis.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Darren R. Davis Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="drdavis.vcf" begin:vcard n:Davis;Darren tel;fax:801.765.1313 tel;work:801.765.4999 x-mozilla-html:TRUE url:http://www.calderasystems.com org:Caldera Systems, Inc.;Engineering adr:;;240 West Center Street;Orem;UT;84057;USA version:2.1 email;internet:drdavis@calderasystems.com title:Director of Research x-mozilla-cpt:;-5088 fn:Darren Davis end:vcard --------------36D628A9BFFCC9C532D7ED25-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-security" in the body of the message