From owner-freebsd-current Mon Nov 13 16:59:30 1995 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id QAA09683 for current-outgoing; Mon, 13 Nov 1995 16:59:30 -0800 Received: from wiley.muc.ditec.de (wiley.muc.ditec.de [194.120.126.9]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id QAA09670 for ; Mon, 13 Nov 1995 16:59:26 -0800 Received: from vector.eikon.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de (vector.eikon.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de [129.187.142.36]) by wiley.muc.ditec.de (8.6.12/8.6.9) with ESMTP id BAA21013; Tue, 14 Nov 1995 01:59:11 +0100 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by vector.eikon.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id BAA00603; Tue, 14 Nov 1995 01:48:05 +0100 Message-Id: <199511140048.BAA00603@vector.eikon.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de> X-Authentication-Warning: vector.eikon.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol To: Heikki Suonsivu cc: current@freebsd.org, freebsd-current@freefall.freebsd.org Subject: Re: ISP state their FreeBSD concerns Reply-To: "Julian H. Stacey" In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 13 Nov 1995 15:51:48 +0200." <199511131351.PAA20135@shadows.cs.hut.fi> Date: Tue, 14 Nov 1995 01:48:05 +0100 From: "Julian H. Stacey" Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > From: Heikki Suonsivu > A commercial support provider for *BSD* would also do a lot of good. I > don't mean one-man shops. There are people who will never buy anything > without a support contract. This theme was mentioned a couple of months back. At some stage it _may_ make hard business sense to spend time incorporating a company, & spend money marketing support services, however it will cost serious money & time to start, & I think it'll probably be best not to be formally linked to the before-discussed FreeBSD Inc, as it will likely have divergent/divisive aims from most FreeBSD people, (like not having fun, doing lots of tedious work, making money, & even using other OS's too where business dictates). Running a company is not a democratic process, & involves much tedious filling with the authorities, Oh, & we have a world wide presence, world wide spread of laws, & a world of currencies. If/when it happens, I think it may likely evolve from geographically co-located small groups of fellow FreeBSDers, ( because remote working over the Internet on development & debug tasks is not that easy, many customer systems hide behind firewalls). Those of us seriously interested in this minority topic might be best off having our own mail list, maybe commercial@freebsd.org it'd be a register & litmus test of interest. PS No way should it be called support@freebsd.org else we'd be flooded with people who want free support, & one can't pay the rent on free support. Julian H. Stacey EMAIL: jhs@freebsd.org WEB: http://www.freebsd.org/~jhs/ TEL: +49.89.268616 FAX: +49.89.2608126 CONSULTANT: Internet, Unix, C POST: Vector Systems Ltd, Holz Strasse 27d, 80469 Munich, Germany.